If English is your first language, perhaps I run in different circles, but honestly the phrase "black people culture" is wild to me. "Black culture" would be a better term, I believe. No comment on "the quantity".

The trope of the inept husband/boyfriend/male is well-established (I'm not a fan of it, mind you) and can transcend racial identity/makeup. The American sitcom "My Wife and Kids", which depicts a Black family, is probably an example of the wife being more level-headed and realistic than the husband. I would also contend that "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" is an example of a show with Black Americans where the wife is more reasonable than the husband (while Uncle Phil does have a career as a judge, he is quick to react to Will Smith's friend and frequently throws him out of the house in ridiculous comic fashion).

My understanding was that Newton's law was describing physics, not emotional reactions.

I know what you mean (for instance, I disliked many decisions George Lucas made about characters I thought were "established" in Star Wars) but in this case I think you are employing the idea of "established character" to do more legwork than is logical. One of my favorite memories of Kingdom Come: Deliverance 1 was taking my Henry on a schnapps-drunk rampage as soon as the freedom to do so became available to the player. It is possible in the game, as evidenced by my experience, but surely not "canon" to the story. I value choice in RPGs in general, so allowing additional possibilities in KCD2 is only a positive thing in my opinion. Not trying to go back and forth, really, just an alternative perspective as food for thought.

Does the "black people culture" term seem racist? Perhaps, I don't know, I don't feel it. I don't fake pretend to "not see color". But perhaps , this insensitivity is better proof of lack of bias than say "I don't see color" and then be aware of the real and imaginary ways you can offend people of a different race. If that's the case, you are racist (not you specifically) or at least are aware of racism but actively try to not seem or not be or to cover it up.
The inept husband is a thing, like you said, transcending race, but there is logic , and a hierarchy here. I believe the pecking order is as follows: black woman>black man/ white woman/ asian woman >asian man >white man. Apologies if I seem too blunt.
Different laws and theories crossover and transcend the field that they were created and discovered in. Somehow, the universe is more connected than we think it is. Applied mathematics, the golden ratio, macro cosmos laws of attraction, newton laws can be applied to the human body, life evolution, economics, social relations, and why not, emotional response.
Maybe, maybe I push the idea of integrous Henry too much. But I liked the guy, I liked him the way he was, and I thought we had a deal. And now they changed the terms of the deal, and that's what people hate. I played Cyberpunk, found my adventures with the ladies, left the guys alone. No harm done, because I didn't feel betrayed. And that's how all these people complaining feel, betrayed and shorthanded. You like more options? So many other games for more options, or a different game in the same settings. Don't take the guy I identified with for the entire first game and make him bisexual.
Good talk, I enjoyed your views and tried to empathize to check myself.

Theories, maybe. Laws - no. Laws are specifics that only applies to specific fields and situations. If they are broader, they stop being laws. Most laws are mathematical expressions. For example, Newtons second law of motion is: F = m a. That is, force equals mass times acceleration. If you have no mass, nor an acceleration, you also have no force.

However, that does not mean that theories can not be used interdisciplinary. For example, the theory of evolution is used in biology, medicine, agriculture and so on. However, all these have in common is that are based on biological systems, so even with theories they still have a common grounding.

no, we are understanding how "the universe is connected" (what a meaningless phrase), and how those connections work.

Yes, we do use mathematics all the time to solve real problems in meat space... that is kinda the point of mathematics. Mathematics is a language that we use to describe the world. You may as well have said 'applied language'

What is the golden ratio, and what do you think is important enough to mention?

Which is pseudoscience woo bullshite. There is no evidence that it is real

Insofar that human bodies are physical objects, and therefore have the laws of physics applied to them. That is, for example, that a human body have a mass, and therefor exerts a gravitational pull (F=G(m1m2)/R^2). As it has mass, it also means that if it is in motion it has inertia, or that you can calcualte the force of an impact that a human body has. Newton's laws of physics is only about physics, nothing else. May also add, that if we are looking at human bodies through a lense of Newtons laws, then a dead body and a living body is exatly the same.

Evolution is real, yes. It is its own field of study. What is the point? Just as physics, or biology, or chemistry, or...

Is an example of applied mathematics

Depends which direction you want to take it. You can use applied mathematics (sigh) and talk about game theory. You can go the psychology route and talk about the way humans create relations. You can go biology and evolution, and look at the way he body reacts to stimuli and the evolutionary reason why we are social animals. You can look at history and see how humans created and acted together to draw parallels to today, in other words - anthropology. You can go sociology and look at power structures, political systems and so on, and so on and so forth. There are many ways to look at human relations from different angles. Quite a lot of it is well understood today, each of them their own field of science. However - non of them use Newtons law's....

We do look at emotional responses. The fields of science that focus on it mostly is biology, neuroscience and pshychology. Again - non of them evoke Newtons law's.

The US game industry churns out roughly 5,000 games a year with a main character, but neither do 375 of them have a black female protagonist, nor even more than that. On social media, youtube in particular, I see right wingers lose their balls when they only think there could be more than four a year.

I hear that in monasteries and among celibates, things would reliably get a little wild during the Middle Ages; and you could rely on the church to hush everything up that never came to light. I'm also pretty certain that particularly travelling folk often 'discovered the possibilities' on their journey.

It's really not that weird for a... what, 15-20 years old? to discover his sexuality as he grows up, I do agree the first game should have included a few lines here and there to potentially leave that door open, but then again considering the time period it's also completely normal to not bring that up, ever

At first I thought it was a total retcon, but after giving it some thought I can see it happen naturally

I'm confused by this discussion.

So is this game great, or fabulous? It can't be both at the same time, right?

Either way, I am going to buy it, either one is fine with me. Little gayness here and there never hurt anybody.

Nooooo! My precious Team Fortress 2!!!

TF2 definitely needs more cheater bots, to bump up its number of concurrent players!

I also heard from some random internet bruh who never played the game that it's not a Gluten Free game, so I won't be playing it.

Instead, I'll just post obsessively in an official GOG news post on the forum about it, so that when people open it to see if there's an update on a release date, they get bombarded with incessant toxic whining instead.

Gayness is fine as long as it's kewl sauce gay and not cringy gay.

you're dismissed, but as a favor to you as a human, I'll tell you this, look up golden ratio
wasn't talking about games regarding quantity

Well, to be blunt now... yes i do believe it will be out on GOG rather soon in 1-2 months. Nonetheless, this game has been released on several other platforms day one... including Epic Games Store which i do not consider with the biggest sales, and a cloud gaming platform (GeForceNow) with unknown sales potential yet a very rich company in the background.

We could almost only argue, GOG is DRM free and it may make a difference in the "risks", although the truth is the game was most likely... as well... available "day one" on several piracy platforms. It may take up to a half year for a strong DRM such as Denuvo to become cracked (dependable on the popularity of a game, higher popularity usually means it happens faster), yet this game is not affected by it.

So, not sure why the delay exactly but at least it is out in the rather near future... on GOG... as well. My assumption is, GOG is simply rather low sales... i dunno why... and so it simply is usually a lower priority with some delays.

Whats for sure: Without a day one release the sales can not be compared with each others, as, even in the year 2025, a game is still making most of its income in the first up to 6 months i guess... but its not that crazy anymore compared to the past. The gamers slowly start to realize "a good game need some time to mature and a broken launch-game is not much use if it need over a year to get properly fixed".

Fair enough... we can not be friends or at least being friendly with everyone, as part of the decisive human nature. Although those devs should be prepared that many "poor" gamers may not go an extra mile "buying" their game... if it can be gotten as a "present" somewhere else. Bad attitude usually may or can strike back in some way.

After some days of thinking, I've been kinda moving over to this side of the argument. The fact they added a gay relationship into the game isn't a problem by default, but why did it have to be Henry and Hans...Both of these characters are now canonically bisexual, after being two of the horniest women-hungry dogs from the whole of Sasau to Rattay. There's not a hint that Henry is into men whatsoever in KCD1...Hans is debatable, but I guess it's not a crime to be flamboyant and straight.

I'm also not a fan of the fact AC: Shadows is being dogpiled for historical inaccuracy with Yasuke but every justification under the sun is being used to explain why Musa is in KCD2. Some consistency would be nice.

And speaking of Cyberpunk, do you know how many of us dudes wanted to sleep with Judy but CDPR and the fans insisted that she's a lesbian. Well, who are they to say Judy can't "rediscover herself" into liking men, since that's the logic we're using for Henry and Hans. Either an established character remains who they are (excluding mods) or none of their sexualities should be determined in the first place so that all characters are bisexual and up to player choice. Or maybe we just stop romance options in games altogether.

Feminine, not lesbian... which is not the same; and indeed... a woman can be masculine. I even make the accusation that nowadays the majority of women are... due to social circumstances... pretty masculine... making it even more tough for males to truly love them. So, Judy actually got a rather difficult "way of romance". Indeed, those looking out for masculinity may meet endless choices, as it is already being "provided" by way to many females.

Sure, i may assume CDPR does not want anyone to change her personality, as this goes pretty deep. So, she should never love a "real man" or even a "alpha male" as this is simply not her way of attraction. Actually she is pretty much opposing any of those dominance-oriented "traits" and is... we can say excessively... seeking out for equality.

And here I thought my takes were hot.
A lot of guys do hold this opinion lately.
But I'm not sure what you're saying here. Judy isn't a "feminine" character, both her and Panam are different types of tomboys.

Read your edit afterwards. I think I get your point. But Henry and Hans are also the types of guys who wouldn't like men yet they were changed rather easily. I'm just on the position that it's weird both ways narratively if we've already established who these characters are.

One could even argue including it only contributes to the authenticity as a whole. Not applauding them for it, but at the same time I can respect the balls for not shying away from rather uncomfortable facts.


It's obvious really - at least to me - why GOG is getting it a bit later:
Epic simply threw money at Deep Silver to secure the day 1 release + to make up for the lower sales as compared to Steam.


Vavra simply and literally sold out and has been kissing Deep Silver's ring (since 2019 when Koch Media gobbled up Warhorse Studios), who are really responsible for retconning Henry and Hans into bisexuals and including Musa as the token black character.
Doesn't excuse Vavra having become a spineless yes-man and being complicit in all of this of course.

It does not matter what "she is", instead what she is attracted to.