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dark___devil: I was just about to make a new thread about how GoG deleted a bunch of reviews while a 5star top review popped up and had like 50 approved rating instantly. I never expected GoG to be a such a shit stains.
Probably because it was an actual review in a sea of both anti and pro reviews by users who didn't play the game.
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So just to give an overview of the review situation:

1) A number of reviews were posted that exclusively consisted of political rants with no mention of the game's quality or lack of. This is not a review

2) Fake reviews that were both pro and anti-Brexit were posted, they were both deleted equally.

3) The only two review left are reviews that talk about the game and what the game consists of. These are fine, as they're actually reviews.

4) All of the fake reviews were posted by users who did not own the game.


We understand the game is political by nature. Whether you are pro or anti is irrelevant, the key factor is leaving an actual review of the game.


I hope this clears things up.





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NuffCatnip: Keep your shitty attitude in your thread, here you go
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dark___devil: It got locked with a threat mate :).I see that this site is becoming a very politicly correct place,really classy gog.
Your post was locked due to me explaining why reviews were deleted. There was no other value to be gained from it. As for classy, when you refrain from spouting out expletives while ignoring replies to your concerns, you can then talk about classy.


Please act a little more civil. I don't want to be enforcing moderation on people for such things.
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Linko90: So just to give an overview of the review situation:

1) A number of reviews were posted that exclusively consisted of political rants with no mention of the game's quality or lack of. This is not a review

2) Fake reviews that were both pro and anti-Brexit were posted, they were both deleted equally.

3) The only two review left are reviews that talk about the game and what the game consists of. These are fine, as they're actually reviews.

4) All of the fake reviews were posted by users who did not own the game.

We understand the game is political by nature. Whether you are pro or anti is irrelevant, the key factor is leaving an actual review of the game.

I hope this clears things up.

Your post was locked due to me explaining why reviews were deleted. There was no other value to be gained from it. As for classy, when you refrain from spouting out expletives while ignoring replies to your concerns, you can then talk about classy.

Please act a little more civil. I don't want to be enforcing moderation on people for such things.
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dark___devil: Interesting that all the deleted ones were with one star and pro brexit. When a game is political,criticising the political views of the game are valid reviews in my book. I don't mind the deletion of reviews that didn't own the game....more or less. That is fare,still i kind of doubt it.

Also be kind enough to define "civil" as i didn't insult you in any way.
This isn't your book, however.

I would point out there was an anti-Brexit 5-star review which was also deleted for the reason as the others. This was not simply a case of deleting all pro-Brexit reviews. This was a case of deleting false reviews that were nothing more than political rantings.


As for being civil - 'Fuck you GoG!'

Do I really need to explain how this is not a civil approach?
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Merranvo: This gets into something pretty interesting that should be discussed.

What constitutes a "fake review"?

Here, we should talk about game design, game audiences, and what it means to not be in the target audience.

It is clear that this game has an intentionally polarized target audience... it is hard to say that intentionally spiting your potential purchasers is a good thing; but not being a member of the target audience is a valid point. I do not believe a person who hates FPS Shooters should leave a review saying "All you do is run around shooting people, there's no quests, no experience, no swords... this game sucks."

This game is, however, banking sales based on having a highly polarized fanbase. Take a look at Hatred, I know next to nothing about the game except that the game became much more popular ONLY because of the controversy surrounding it.

If I were to make a game called "Some-Political-Subject Simulator" which sets up strawmen situations which intentionally anger one side, while making another side laugh with joy... all for the sake of sales... it seems fitting that the scoring system should receive negativity.

Games should give the illusion of choice, if you force the player to side with your ideology to enjoy the game, there are going to be negative reviews based on that alone. The game's description makes it sound like you cannot choose to support the evil tyrannical dictator... if you know there are going to be people who want to do this, why not allow it?

Heh, I doubt the game has anything interesting that would happen if played the opposite way it is intended... I often enjoy playing choice games again to see what would happen if I reversed roles and did things much differently but only if it actually has a cool change in the outcome.
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What does constitute a "fake review"
As I said before, this is an interesting topic when you're willing to think about it. The tone changes all the time based on whether you agree with the views expressed by the "fake reviews" or disagree with them. Should it not be up to the individual to determine if a review is fake or not?

I, for instance, find the review that moonlighter does not have mouse support to be a valid point... even though it has little to do with the game and that the individual likely didn't play it long. Whether the problems in a review are applicable to you can only be decided by you, and you alone!

It is hard to ignore that this game is trying to take advantage of the polarized market to reap lots of $$$$, I find those type of antics to be disgusting. Other people don't like the lack of Polish support... other's don't like needing DRM for online play.... others don't like the lack of diversity... others don't like lots of things. Who are we to say that those topics do not deserve mentioning?[/i]
I explained what makes a false review. I'll say this again, to be crystal clear -

The reviews were posted by people who do not own the game. The reviews consisted of pure political views, not a mention of the game, be it gameplay, language support or controller/mouse support.

These reviews offer no value. They do not reflect the quality, or lack of, of the game itself. They do not express a view on what the game does well, or what it fails to do.
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Linko90: These reviews offer no value. They do not reflect the quality, or lack of, of the game itself. They do not express a view on what the game does well, or what it fails to do.
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InvisibleJim: False because they describe the politically loaded qualities of the game; particularly of a politically loaded game.

But we all know what GOG.com's SJW employees are doing here: trying to drum up sales for a shitty indie developer that shares their toxic ideals; likely at a push from the ridiculous anti-gamer journalists they love like VG24/7 - see the Postal incident for another example of how cancerous GOG.com has become.

The lesson is simple: do not buy games on GOG.com. Get woke? Go broke.
And yet they mention nothing of the game's mechanics, story or ability to convey the desired experience. This isn't a new process, we deleted false reviews when they were spammed onto visual novel game pages.

At this point, I feel official insight into the process is lost on people wishing to echo their favourite Youtuber motto.


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Linko90: The reviews were posted by people who do not own the game on GOG.
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xyem: Fixed that for you.
And don't mention anything of the game's gameplay, mechanics, story, audio etc etc, just political rantings.
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Linko90: So just to give an overview of the review situation:

1) A number of reviews were posted that exclusively consisted of political rants with no mention of the game's quality or lack of. This is not a review

2) Fake reviews that were both pro and anti-Brexit were posted, they were both deleted equally.

3) The only two review left are reviews that talk about the game and what the game consists of. These are fine, as they're actually reviews.

4) All of the fake reviews were posted by users who did not own the game.

We understand the game is political by nature. Whether you are pro or anti is irrelevant, the key factor is leaving an actual review of the game.

I hope this clears things up.

Your post was locked due to me explaining why reviews were deleted. There was no other value to be gained from it. As for classy, when you refrain from spouting out expletives while ignoring replies to your concerns, you can then talk about classy.

Please act a little more civil. I don't want to be enforcing moderation on people for such things.
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zgrillo2004: I think this is a good time to post this
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/08/not-tonight-cheats-offer-infinite-cash-while-gog-gets-caught-deleting-reviews/67113/

I suggest you tell your higher up to stop the political correctness platform and virtue signaling. Its going to make GOG lose ALOT of money.
I'm aware it completely overlooks the fact both pro and anti brexit false reviews were deleted in order for them to have 'an angle'. I'm also aware the site itself wishes for ethics in reviews and video game journalism, yet defends false reviews being posted.

Funnily enough, it does not make mention of any of the false reviews being removed on games such as visual novels, or reviews posted on various games that are nothing more than a rant aimed at the developer/their fans.
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Linko90: I'm aware it completely overlooks the fact both pro and anti brexit false reviews were deleted in order for them to have 'an angle'. I'm also aware the site itself wishes for ethics in reviews and video game journalism, yet defends false reviews being posted.

Funnily enough, it does not make mention of any of the false reviews being removed on games such as visual novels, or reviews posted on various games that are nothing more than a rant aimed at the developer/their fans.
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toxicTom: +++

The VN introduction was really a thing that brought out the worst in people... which I don't understand because, even if you love cards, I can still love my dice, no?

The only thing where I can kind of get the rage is the Beamdog releases, esp. because they de-list the original games. It would have been better to have the original games side-by-side with the remasters - but I know GOG's hands are tied in this. Still people should be try to stay calm and factual and point out the deficiencies of the actual product and not personally attack devs or customers. I mean this literally is useless - it will not convince anybody to avoid the product if you just wave with torches and pitchforks...
I understand people do not wish for certain games or genres to appear on GOG, but the review page is not the platform to express this. The forums provide them with a place to discuss exactly that (assuming they can control themselves in a civil manner). We recently saw it with Hidden Object games and the whole Lepurex saga with anime-related games. Not everything is for everyone, thankfully there's plenty out there to explore and try.
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Linko90: I'm aware it completely overlooks the fact both pro and anti brexit false reviews were deleted in order for them to have 'an angle'. I'm also aware the site itself wishes for ethics in reviews and video game journalism, yet defends false reviews being posted.

Funnily enough, it does not make mention of any of the false reviews being removed on games such as visual novels, or reviews posted on various games that are nothing more than a rant aimed at the developer/their fans.
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zgrillo2004: Its defending false reviews because it opposes censorship. What you are supporting is a form of censorship that is reminiscent to china. The problem with this world is it is so politically correct that we have no rights, whatsoever on our beliefs and opinions. It is very dangerous for you, a mod to tread to this path. You must be neutral on these things and just let it go on. Let the people argue about it themselves.
It's not censorship, nor is it even close to China.

'this world is it is so politically correct that we have no rights' Please, point out which human right was being defiled as we delete reviews that did not even comment on the game's quality, mechanics or anything that even equates to a review?

'It is very dangerous for you, a mod to tread to this path. You must be neutral on these things and just let it go on. Let the people argue about it themselves.'

You honestly seem to have no idea of what a moderator is.
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Linko90: It's not censorship, nor is it even close to China.

'this world is it is so politically correct that we have no rights' Please, point out which human right was being defiled as we delete reviews that did not even comment on the game's quality, mechanics or anything that even equates to a review?

'It is very dangerous for you, a mod to tread to this path. You must be neutral on these things and just let it go on. Let the people argue about it themselves.'

You honestly seem to have no idea of what a moderator is.
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zgrillo2004: The censorship of conservatives in social media. In fact the US senate is aware of this and they say its becoming dangerous. big example was facebook removing Diamond and Silk for being "Unsafe to the community" They have never committed any violations whatsoever. Next is Alex Jones. he maybe a nut but all social media platforms have banned him. Let me cut to the chase here. Stop the censorship of people with different opinions. and I know what a moderator is like. I was one on multiple game servers and VOIP channels. dont you dare say that Im dumb.
Again, you've ignored the fact both pro and anti-Brexit false reviews were deleted, much like the article you linked does.

The review page is NOT a place for users to express their political views or tastes in nothing but a rant, it's there for reviews. Talk about the game's qualities or lack of. Talk about why you do not like the game, or indeed why you liked it. It also helps to play the game, not just read it's description or watch a let's play.
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eVinceW21: Oh look. GOG pr did a stupid again.

Keep this up.

Ya know this might have been over looked if it weren't for the previous blunders ya'll caught so much flack for and failed to properly address (or at all, really).

All GOG's done is draw attention to itself on the messy socio political landscape. They're in it now.

GOG pr is playing with hazardous material and they're in waaay over their heads.

Get a grip or get used to having to deal with these messes till ya go broke, GOG.
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zgrillo2004: Thats what I basically said but Im just afraid that this moderator would ban me for basically being a conservative.
No one has been banned for being conservative. People are banned for breaking the rules, derailing threads or attacking users. For example, if you keep using 'libtards' as a term of reference, you will be banned. Not for being conservatives, but for ignoring the rules.
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Linko90: No one has been banned for being conservative. People are banned for breaking the rules, derailing threads or attacking users. For example, if you keep using 'libtards' as a term of reference, you will be banned. Not for being conservatives, but for ignoring the rules.
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zgrillo2004: What gives you the right to not let me use that word. Why dont you look at the atrocities on what they have done to innocent americans? I bet you didnt because you dont care or you cater to the SJWs who threaten and bully you to a pulp. Stop supporting these people.
Simple, as previously stated, attacking people based on their political belief is not welcome.
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Linko90: Simple, as previously, attacking people based on their political belief is not welcome.
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zgrillo2004: Then I guess free speech isnt welcome. We are not allowed to even criticize the left. Only the left is right all the time and we the conservatives are wrong. Why dont you come to my house in the US and we will have a debate on this. So be it
If you keep ignoring everything I say to go on rants then I will give you some time to cool down. As for flying over to your house, I will politely decline.