Posted December 09, 2011

Phc7006
Good News again?
Registered: Dec 2010
From Belgium

lowyhong
resident bff
Registered: Dec 2008
From Singapore
Posted December 09, 2011

European customers now can't buy in USD anymore. We are forced to shop in EUR. With an exchange rate set at 1 EUR = 1 USD. Meaning that for us, all prices jumped by 32% overnight.
AS far as I am concerned , this means I won't buy from them anymore. Given the extent of my game collection there , I won't close my account, like I did with Impulse, but I'm really unhappy about that move.

grviper
Cat Confuser Lv6
Registered: Dec 2010
From Russian Federation
Posted December 09, 2011
Russia is locked in Euro prices at GG uses and the same conversion rate. Meaning a game is 40% more expensive at GG while on Steam it might be on a permanent regional -40% discount. The resulting price difference is hilarious. Mainly because GG doesn't give a damn about being accessed from a VPN or a proxy.

lowyhong
resident bff
Registered: Dec 2008
From Singapore
Posted December 09, 2011
Not even DRM-free on Gamersgate can justify this. I like GG but they have got to get their act together. It always seems like they're doing well in one area, and failing in another. They never operate at max potential.

etna87
New User
Registered: Sep 2011
From Germany
Posted December 09, 2011
Did they do something to prevent the use of a proxy? Or was it originally possible to simply pay in dollars in Europe?
Edit: Oh, and @MonstaMunch: Making sure that blue coin gifting works as intended, as Petrell suggested, is a good idea. If it does, you could start a thread for that, sounds like you have quite a few games to trade. I could probably contribute a few GoGs ;)
Edit: Oh, and @MonstaMunch: Making sure that blue coin gifting works as intended, as Petrell suggested, is a good idea. If it does, you could start a thread for that, sounds like you have quite a few games to trade. I could probably contribute a few GoGs ;)
Post edited December 09, 2011 by etna87

bansama
bansama.com
Registered: Oct 2008
From Japan
Posted December 09, 2011
FYI, those in Europe have always been charged in Euros for as long as I've been tracking sales. If you've been seeing US pricing all that time, then it's down to the IP address you had (and possibly incorrect geo-IP data).
That doesn't excuse the pricing, but this isn't a new issue suddenly sprung on you. Besides, the last I checked, it was still very easy to convince the site that you were away on vacation overseas...
And if your worried about billing info when "on vacation", you can always stock up on Blue coins in your region, that is, if those don't also cost 1 euro for 1000 (I can't see the Euro price for those).
That doesn't excuse the pricing, but this isn't a new issue suddenly sprung on you. Besides, the last I checked, it was still very easy to convince the site that you were away on vacation overseas...
And if your worried about billing info when "on vacation", you can always stock up on Blue coins in your region, that is, if those don't also cost 1 euro for 1000 (I can't see the Euro price for those).
Post edited December 09, 2011 by bansama

Placio74
New User
Registered: May 2010
From Poland
Posted December 09, 2011
For many, but not for all games.
For example Dungeon Defenders prices are: $14.99, €11.99 and £9.99
Yes. But carefully, prices are not always more fair.
For example Star Wolves 3: Civil War prices are: $19.95, €19.95 and... £19.95
For example Dungeon Defenders prices are: $14.99, €11.99 and £9.99
Yes. But carefully, prices are not always more fair.
For example Star Wolves 3: Civil War prices are: $19.95, €19.95 and... £19.95
Post edited December 09, 2011 by Placio74

MonstaMunch
roar
Registered: Oct 2011
From Cambodia
Posted December 09, 2011

I can see why no one would want to do that, as it's an extra hassle just to help someone you don't know, but it would be much appreciated, and I'm happy to send the GoG codes before receiving the blue coins, so there doesn't need to be any risk for whoever does it. :)
Oh, and I emailed them to check if the blue coins are working, they said they are :)

lukaszthegreat
Greed is good!
Registered: Sep 2008
From Norfolk Island
Posted December 09, 2011
well im in poland and i can easily go to uk site and add stuff to my basket. did not try to buy tough.

bansama
bansama.com
Registered: Oct 2008
From Japan

Heretic777
Eternal PC Gamer
Registered: Jul 2011
From United States
Posted December 10, 2011
I tried the Blue Coin trick with the UK site and it works sometimes. I bought a 4BP game for 4000BC once. It saved me $2, but many times GG adjust the BC amount to reflect the current exchange rate, sometime they forget and you can take advantage of that. I also tried to gift BC to someone and there is an option, but it didn't work for me. The BC that I purchased as a gift, went right into my account.

etna87
New User
Registered: Sep 2011
From Germany
Posted December 10, 2011
It's 0,75 euro per 1000 blue coins, 1 euro gets you 1338. It looks like it depends on the current exchange rate, as was mentioned already.

Phc7006
Good News again?
Registered: Dec 2010
From Belgium
Posted December 10, 2011

And if your worried about billing info when "on vacation", you can always stock up on Blue coins in your region, that is, if those don't also cost 1 euro for 1000 (I can't see the Euro price for those).
BC do indeed cost 0,75 € for 1000. So, yes, I could go on vacation and use them...
Tis doesn't make these issues of regional settings less infuriating.

But at least Steam doesn't make you use the EUR.
Post edited December 10, 2011 by Phc7006

Psyringe
Vagabond
Registered: Sep 2011
From Germany
Posted December 10, 2011
I have a question about GamersGate's definition of "DRM free".
I noticed that GamersGate offers many games as "DRM free". However, when I install them, I still have to have an internet connection, as the installer needs to contact GamersGate. The FAQ states explicitly that this step is necessary, even if you already downloaded the game - you cannot install any allegedly DRM-free game without GamersGate giving a green light, every single time.
This means if I reinstall a game in a couple of years, even if a kept backups, I'm dependent on GamersGate still being around and unlocking my install process. So, while the games are labeled as DRM-free (which they may still be in the technical sense of the word), I still can't be sure that they will remain playable. As i understand it, an event that is entirely out of my hands (Gamersgate going down, or swapping hands and changing its policies) could render all my Gamersgate games uninstallable.
Question: Do I understand this correctly? If yes, do alternatives to Gamersgate's install process exist? please note, I'm not interested in bashing gamersgate - I'm just checking them out for the first time in 4 years, and I think they're doing several things much better than GOG, specifically bundling games, rewarding active/helpful customers, and motivating people to make one more purchase. However, as a collector of games, it's important to me that the games I purchased are actually safely mine and that it's in my hands whether or not I can use them in the far future. therefore, GamersGate's interpretation of "DRM free" seems a bit disturbing to me.
Here's a link to the FAQ I'm referring to. See the question "Can I download the game on my office PC and install it on my home PC which does not have an internet connection?".
I noticed that GamersGate offers many games as "DRM free". However, when I install them, I still have to have an internet connection, as the installer needs to contact GamersGate. The FAQ states explicitly that this step is necessary, even if you already downloaded the game - you cannot install any allegedly DRM-free game without GamersGate giving a green light, every single time.
This means if I reinstall a game in a couple of years, even if a kept backups, I'm dependent on GamersGate still being around and unlocking my install process. So, while the games are labeled as DRM-free (which they may still be in the technical sense of the word), I still can't be sure that they will remain playable. As i understand it, an event that is entirely out of my hands (Gamersgate going down, or swapping hands and changing its policies) could render all my Gamersgate games uninstallable.
Question: Do I understand this correctly? If yes, do alternatives to Gamersgate's install process exist? please note, I'm not interested in bashing gamersgate - I'm just checking them out for the first time in 4 years, and I think they're doing several things much better than GOG, specifically bundling games, rewarding active/helpful customers, and motivating people to make one more purchase. However, as a collector of games, it's important to me that the games I purchased are actually safely mine and that it's in my hands whether or not I can use them in the far future. therefore, GamersGate's interpretation of "DRM free" seems a bit disturbing to me.
Here's a link to the FAQ I'm referring to. See the question "Can I download the game on my office PC and install it on my home PC which does not have an internet connection?".

Cleidophoros
Come get some!
Registered: Sep 2008
From Turkey
Posted December 10, 2011
As far as I know there is no alternative.
I don't think they will ever change policies to the point of you not being able to install your games. Even if the company changes hands teh new management will make sure you can access your older games. If not that would certainly be their demise.
In an event Gamersgate going down, company failing, I am sure some others will acquire it. It has millions of users.
What I am saying is I don't think we should be worried of not being able to play those games in our lifetime.
GG's interpretation of drm-free, well that's another case. At least you need it only when installing.
I don't think they will ever change policies to the point of you not being able to install your games. Even if the company changes hands teh new management will make sure you can access your older games. If not that would certainly be their demise.
In an event Gamersgate going down, company failing, I am sure some others will acquire it. It has millions of users.
What I am saying is I don't think we should be worried of not being able to play those games in our lifetime.
GG's interpretation of drm-free, well that's another case. At least you need it only when installing.