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corawesome2: Anyone?
Here's an answer to both your questions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psWDICOVuOI&feature=relmfu&t=145
I wonder if there are any lawyers in this forum.
They may be able to help you
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corawesome2: So any other arguements againist the death penatly?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=arguments+against+death+penalty
http://news.yahoo.com/wrong-man-executed-texas-probe-says-051125159.html
Happened just 21 hours ago.
Well guys, Thanks for all your help
Heres a copy of my spee
I already went and i lost due to my team making me cut 3/4 of my speech
And i would really appreciate it if anyone comments on my speech
i worked on it for a long time.
Thank you




I would like to explain my position on capital punishment
Let me tell you that i am not a witherspoon excludable, Now a witherspoon excludables is a juror whos positions on the death penalty tends to be pro-life and cannot truly be fair to the prosecutors argument for the death penalty,


If you want a good example of the most wasteful and ineffective and benefit free government program imaginable, It would be our current government program on capital punishment its extraordinarily expensive and contrary to these studies which appear periodically by economists, I will explain why their research is so hardly flawed the death penalty doesn’t have any supreme deterrent effect to life imprisonment without parole In Fact lets use some common sense we don’t even need studies to know that, Now does the death penalty deter murder? Of course it does but its always a matter of comparision if the question was that does the death penalty deter murder better than a one hundred dollar fine, my first question would be where do i pay and where's bob? But will the death penalty deter better than life imprisonment without parole of course not Only Rational people and this is one problem with economics but they tend to look at models that assume rationality, No rational person would ever take the postion well im going to go ahead and kill my spouse for the insurance money because if i get caught i will only get life imprisonment without parole I mean theres this notion now among people that if theres two different punishments and one is more scary than the other, that the scary one deters better, Nonsense if you had a choice your punishment being 500 or 100 years in hell i am sure you would choose one hundred years but believe me either one would be enough to deter you, Theres another example for young males since your the most likely to commit a murder according to statistics, That if you had a choice of punishment of having your eyes poked out or a certain part of your body cut off, one of the two might scare you more than the other but i assure that both would be enough to deter you. No rational criminal capablein being detered would ever say,i am going to commit the murder because i am ONLY going to get life without parole On the other hand people on the fringe of sanity people who feel the typical murderer who feels betrayed humiliated dishonored the victim of a vast conspiracy for him, a message of a execution especially a highly, publizcied one is imitation the message is that violence is a acceptable way to resolve the problem with those who do us wrong and the best scienctific evidence indicates have a brutalizing effect actually lead to a increase in the homocide rate.
So not only does it not deter but if anything it makes us less safe, So if someone wants a cost effective program that will work should oppose Capital punishment Moreover I want to point out that the problem with the death penatly is …. people, I support the death penalty, Josh says that whether or not you can morally oppose capital punishment, I honestly have no moral oppositions whatsoever to capital punishment unless its based on your religious beliefs but the question is DOES IT WORK? and as we will see the answer is no i support the death penalty in principle but not in practice and the reason is that ever since eve bit that apple which was really adams fault humans beings have been as fredrick nietzche said “All too human” We are morally and and perceptionaly fallible Capital cases all crimal cases always be plagued by cases of mistaken eye witnesses identfication course confessions , well meaning police and presectuors who caught up in lecture im frank said was that pursuit of victory over the pursuit of truth its a classic psychological process you have one theory of who did the crime and the first bit of evidence tends to support it the police, the prosectuors told their spouses their friends “we got the guy, we got the guy” Than they tend to ignore any evidence to the contray case after case it comes to the us supreme court we find situation like that well meaning people thinking they are doing right are the ones who constantly messing up and making errors the death penalty history has shown
from ancient babylon through the roman empire through today simply cannot be administered by human beings without substantial caprice, tremendous waste of money and a great deal of racial, gender and class bias it just can't be done. It is simply incorrect to say that the death penalty has a specific deterrent effect specific deterrent refers to the ability of a punishment to intimidate any living creasture with free will from doing something it would otherwise would do.
You can’t specifically deter a dead person, You can’t specifically deter this podium The negative team means to say that the death penalty has a incapacitation effect but it doesn’t a specific deterrent effect, It doesn’t have a general deterrent effect, What about that incapicated effect?
It is true a study of the inmates whoses lives were saved by the furman vs georgia decision did show that among those who stayed in prision four of them committed two murders however those who got out did very very well, the vast majority never went back to crime it is true that there are some people who will kill again in prison and some people who are even clever enough to escape from prision But thats another thing we can work on maybe have the money to do better once we get rid of the death penalty because believe me a society that have sent people to the moon would be able figure out a way to keep dangerous people in prison and keep them from huting anybody while they are there i know we can do it, other nations do it all of western europe
has abolished the death penalty when they get those kinds of offenders they get life without parole they rarely hurt anybody else it can be done and it would be easier to do that
It amazes me that the very same people who downplay the incredible number of errors will play up the kinds of error made by parole board and prison officals that lead to releasing people who are truly dangerous or allowing people to escape from prison, this is the problem, Human beings are all too fallible we constantly mess up and it will always be that way, we can’t trust ourselfs with irreversible punishments, as for the notion that that we provide due process to death row inmates Nothing could be further from the truth, infact we have one of the strangest appeal system in the world take a look at the case herrear vs collins in that case the suprme court agreed to decide two issues, one does it violate the cruel and unusual punishment clause in the eight amendment to execute a innocent person, but the court couldn’t answer that finding it too difficult i find that easy to answer executing a innocent person is certainily at the at the gratuitous infliction of pain and suffering with no good coming out of it, 5 justices in the various majority concurring in the same opinion did say did take that position but that is not an opinion made.
the other question is whether or not an death row inmate could bring a freestanding claim of actual innocence if we didn’t serve the procedural claim a grand jury error,exclusionary error, miranda rule error, and the answer was no at first, then maybe if a truly persuasive case was shown that perhaps we could do this but the standard would have to be extraordinarily high to resolve this, we have an appreal system now to which murderers often have death sentecnes of convictions reversed because ts weren’t crossed and i’s weren’t dotted meanwhile people with actual reliable cases of innocence new evidences of innocence aren’t allowed to appeal and this is worsene since the passing of the 1996 anti terrorism an effective death penatly act what kind of an appeal system takes away largely the opportunity to make a claim for the truth to bring up ecidence of innocence and instead asks us to mainly consider if we got the procedures right?
There is virtuailly no due processess in these cases at all we need among other things to change the appeal system to allow death row inmates and all imates to appeal on the basis of innocence and not on the basis of procedural technicalities we need to move away from that .



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The death penalty inevitably leads to error, caprice, racial discrimination, Famous David. baldus study in georgia shows that even after the changes brought about by furman verus georgia at every one hundred cases for a black is convicted for killing a white all other factors held equal 22% got the death penalty or when a white killed a white 8%
and when a white killed a black 3% and when a black killed a black 1% so
a black kills a white 22% get the death penalty, black kills a black 1% gets the death penalty, same result in every state, jack boger studied north carolina, another study in maryland we can’t simply continue to have an irreversible punishment where we know we will make some mistakes,
where we waste alot of money and we variable comminit horrendous racial prejudice, Its time to get rid of it and join the rest of the civilized world.



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