Posted August 18, 2009

The notion that "gay" as an insult has parted from the homosexual definition is far too hopeful. It would not be an insult used to mean anything if not for a disdain of gays. It often still perpetuates the fallacy that heterosexual males are alphas while gays are - as Member of Parliament, Tom Lukiwski, said; "the B's are homosexual faggots with dirt on their fingernails that transmit diseases."
So not only must you live in the nicest neighborhood in the world, but under a rock as well. Last year, the US had it's presidential election. At the same time, the majority of California voters stripped away the rights of gays and lesbians. Florida also stripped away rights of gays and lesbians, reversing even the right of adoption, actually splitting up families. Initiatives funded and orchestrated by religious institutions, carried out politically and supported socially. The effects of these high profile events have spread through Canada. There has since been a substantial increase in gay bashings. A local radio poll revealed 54% of voters disapprove of same sex marriage even though it is legal. A spokesperson for the VPD recently announced that the vast majority of hate crimes concern the GLBT and Jewish communities. Etc, etc, etc.
To summarize: homophobia is alive and well and I am baffled that you can't see it. If anyone would like to share some stats on the plights of fat people, knock yourself out, but I don't appreciate the attempts to minimize the circumstances facing the GLBT community.
Over & out.
OK, you're actually assuming a lot from my post that I didn't actually mean. I'll start with the biggest one - that you seem to assume I'm saying homophobia isn't really there, that's not what I've been saying at all, not even close. My point of discussion is regarding the advert in the original post, more specifically use of the term "gay" as an insult. I wouldn't for a second try to claim that homophobia is gone from society and that everyone has adopted an "I'm OK you're OK" attitude. The point I was trying to make is that use of the term "gay" as an insult doesn't always have anything to do with sexuality at all. Referring back to my previous analogy, if you call someone a bastard I don't think you even have unwed parents on your mind at all but that's what that's what the word refers to. It's the same with gay, the word has evolved.
Now of course there are still people out there who say it with its full meaning, though I expect that those who have real hatred for gays use more harsh words like "faggot" but that's beside the point. The issue is, the advert is trying to make a word taboo and I think that's a royal waste of time, especially when the word doesn't necessarily mean anything any more. From personal experience I have several friends who use the word "gay" to mean "a bit crap" and because I know them, I know that they're not even a little bit homophobic. Again, this may still be offensive to you and other gays but at that point I'd say perhaps it's time to take the word how it's meant rather than loading it with unintended offence. Someone earlier made a good point about saying "you suck" - I very much doubt anyone associates that with fellatio any more.
Your points about America are valid, proposition 8 was very surprising for what was supposed to be a liberal state, but then a lot of America has always seemed kind of batshit crazy to me. I'm surprised to hear that information about Canada though, I always thought of it as having more European sensibilities than American.
Finally I just want to specifically counter two points:
"It would not be an insult used to mean anything if not for a disdain of gays."
Again I refer to the use of the word "Bastard". That's generally considered an insult, but I expect you'd be hard pressed to find someone who uses that term and genuinely gives a shit whether another's parents are unwed. "Gay" isn't all the way there yet, but I think for an awful lot of people they use that term without any thought about homosexuality, and in fact many of them don't give a crap about it either way. As I've said, I've used the word lots of times to mean "a bit crap" and I really have no issue with homosexuality. In fact I was pretty disgusted with the outcome of proposition 8.
Finally:
"If anyone would like to share some stats on the plights of fat people, knock yourself out, but I don't appreciate the attempts to minimize the circumstances facing the GLBT community."
Hopefully this post points out that that's not at all what I was doing, I just don't think the advert is going to be of much use, and I think it's quite misguided. Also, as you can see from my last post, I'm not interested in comparing the suffering of fat people vs gay people. It's a gigantic waste of time.