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Licurg: Ok, who downrepped Roman5?
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mystral: I think at this point there are quite a few people who downrep Roman's posts no matter what they are about. Stupid, I know, but it's not the first time this happens (although not to Roman himself I think). As for Zinga, I've never played any of their games (or any FB games for that matter) so I don't really care what happens to them, but I'm not quite sure what they've ever done to make people hate them so much.
Roman5 froths at the mouth when [named entity] receives money and gets a raging boner when [named entity] loses money, without any other noticeable pattern. It's not that Zynga is evil, although of course it is. It's "company loses money" -> CHEER!!! The complete lack of a rational basis for his rage and schadenfreude is what gets him downvotes. Let this be a lesson to all of you.
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mystral: I think at this point there are quite a few people who downrep Roman's posts no matter what they are about. Stupid, I know, but it's not the first time this happens (although not to Roman himself I think). As for Zinga, I've never played any of their games (or any FB games for that matter) so I don't really care what happens to them, but I'm not quite sure what they've ever done to make people hate them so much.
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Starmaker: Roman5 froths at the mouth when [named entity] receives money and gets a raging boner when [named entity] loses money, without any other noticeable pattern. It's not that Zynga is evil, although of course it is. It's "company loses money" -> CHEER!!! The complete lack of a rational basis for his rage and schadenfreude is what gets him downvotes. Let this be a lesson to all of you.
He hasn't said much in this thread and most of the hate isn't even coming from him.
Zynga? Let that be a lesson to them all.
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Licurg: ...
More like the classy community being shitty.

(not aimed at you personally, but the community here as a whole, since this has been very noticeable lately and I've been avoiding the forums more and more every day (come here few times per day and only post if I spot an interesting headline on the first page or someone replies to one of my posts.))

How you guys can call someone shitty (the guys and girls at EA, Zynga, Blizzard, Ubisoft, Valve, and pretty much everyone else in the gaming industry that does something that apparently goes against whatever you guys stand for (and would give your life for (because looking from the other side of the fence it sure looks that way)) without even knowing that someone personally, but only through their business side (which every single gaming related company is about, business, not to fill your gaming hunger) is beyond me. But I guess that's how classy communities do it.
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Elenarie: More like the classy community being shitty.
May be so. But we're still classy, by comparison if nothing else :P
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Titanium: They might be just rating his presentation. I mean, hell, five words and a ctrl+v.
Very possible.

Opening a thread and finding nothing but a link is really annoying. At least in this case Roman had the good sense to give it a rather descriptive title, unlike the "Anyone remember this?"s and "Best thing ever!"s floating around.
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Licurg: ...
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Elenarie: More like the classy community being shitty. (not aimed at you personally, but the community here as a whole, since this has been very noticeable lately and I've been avoiding the forums more and more every day (come here few times per day and only post if I spot an interesting headline on the first page or someone replies to one of my posts.)) How you guys can call someone shitty (the guys and girls at EA, Zynga, Blizzard, Ubisoft, Valve, and pretty much everyone else in the gaming industry that does something that apparently goes against whatever you guys stand for (and would give your life for (because looking from the other side of the fence it sure looks that way)) without even knowing that someone personally, but only through their business side (which every single gaming related company is about, business, not to fill your gaming hunger) is beyond me. But I guess that's how classy communities do it.
A lot, at least to me, of the evil of Zynga is it's operating. It's owner has been on record saying that they're whole 'strategy' is to copy a competitor and do what it takes to get their numbers. And while I won't speak of the quality of their games, most of them are huge ad-fests that push you to buy stuff from them, either to keep playing (Energy for anything that's not Farmville), Pay To Win gear for things like Mafia Wars, and all sorts of cosmetic items.

And a lot of them (Yes, I know FB games in general do this, but Zynga's game takes it to a high degree) require you to put posts on your FB wall begging people to help you with the latest thing they've come up with (And they do it very very often).

They're skinner boxes to a degree that most people claim WoW to be, but while WoW offers you options and doesn't limit your playing, Zynga games tend to make you do a lot of things requiring more energy so that you spend less time being ABLE to play, and thus more time wanting to play to get everything done.
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Gazoinks: I have a Facebook account, does that mean you'll be happy when I die? ;_;
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Elenarie: You forgot that you're on GOG, where elitists, 'I know best', 'GOG is awesome, everything else sucks' jerks reign supreme. :p
Not really, Facebook is ultimately evil and people signing up are selling the rest of us out. It's gotten to the point where if you don't have a Facebook account you can be deprived of employment for refusing to hand over a facebook password. You can't enter a lot of contests without a FB account.

Really and truly, it represents a truly vile enterprise. And that's before you consider all the pictures that go up there of other people that are then face scanned and indexed.
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Elenarie: The amazing classy community downrepped him. ^^
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Licurg: NO! I can't believe that. I WON'T believe that. Zynga must've hired people to get on the GOG forums and downrep anyone who says they're shit. IT'S THE ONLY LOGICAL EXPLANATION!!!
Personally, I like Elenarie, but there's a certain streak of obliviousness at times. I've never played Zynga games, but from what I understand they're just rip offs of what other people have done with the odd tweak.

I read a story about this a couple days ago questioning how long Zynga could stay in business without actually creating any new franchises.
Post edited October 11, 2012 by hedwards
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hedwards: Not really, Facebook is ultimately evil and people signing up are selling the rest of us out. It's gotten to the point where if you don't have a Facebook account you can be deprived of employment for refusing to hand over a facebook password.
Wait...what?
I've heard of employers asking for FB profile but password? It's like asking to read my mail, together with keys of my house and car.
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hedwards: Not really, Facebook is ultimately evil and people signing up are selling the rest of us out. It's gotten to the point where if you don't have a Facebook account you can be deprived of employment for refusing to hand over a facebook password.
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IronStar: Wait...what? I've heard of employers asking for FB profile but password? It's like asking to read my mail, together with keys of my house and car.
It's starting to be a problem in the US where companies want FB login information in order to do a back ground check. It's a violation of the ToS of FB and I think there's been enough of a backlash that I'm not sure if employers are still trying to do it. But, without the threat of withholding a job offer, there's no reason for anybody to provide that information.

The US is a country where drug screenings and back ground checks are common requirements to get a job. The FB thing has been new in the last few years.

As far as I know it's not yet common for them to require those log ins, I've never been asked for it. But, it concerns me what happens to folks who don't have a FB account when HR demands access. But, it does happen from time to time, and hopefully this thing gets squashed before it's normal.
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IronStar: Wait...what? I've heard of employers asking for FB profile but password? It's like asking to read my mail, together with keys of my house and car.
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hedwards: It's starting to be a problem in the US where companies want FB login information in order to do a back ground check. It's a violation of the ToS of FB and I think there's been enough of a backlash that I'm not sure if employers are still trying to do it. But, without the threat of withholding a job offer, there's no reason for anybody to provide that information. The US is a country where drug screenings and back ground checks are common requirements to get a job. The FB thing has been new in the last few years. As far as I know it's not yet common for them to require those log ins, I've never been asked for it. But, it concerns me what happens to folks who don't have a FB account when HR demands access. But, it does happen from time to time, and hopefully this thing gets squashed before it's normal.
That's....utter violation of privacy I guess? Disgusting.

While I do realize why do they want drug test, but this is pushing it. Unless that job was absolutely necessary, and I had no alternative, they would be told to f* off.
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hedwards: Not really, Facebook is ultimately evil and people signing up are selling the rest of us out. It's gotten to the point where if you don't have a Facebook account you can be deprived of employment for refusing to hand over a facebook password. You can't enter a lot of contests without a FB account. Really and truly, it represents a truly vile enterprise. And that's before you consider all the pictures that go up there of other people that are then face scanned and indexed.
Amen. Facebook needs to disappear. Sadly, it won't.

Zynga will certainly crash and burn. They're facing losses of upwards of $100 million pr. quarter now. They've made some incredibly poor investment decision, and they appear to have no ability to innovate. Goodbye, Zynga.
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stonebro: Amen. Facebook needs to disappear.
Now, if someone could just explain me, why the heck do you want Facebook dead, except it's invasion of privacy and tons of idiots out there, and both are quite easy to avoid....
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IronStar: That's....utter violation of privacy I guess? Disgusting. While I do realize why do they want drug test, but this is pushing it. Unless that job was absolutely necessary, and I had no alternative, they would be told to f* off.
I doubt that it's going to catch on, but then again, I also didn't think that people would voluntarily give the FBI that sort of access to their personal lives, and well people are giving all that information to one place where the FBI can quickly subpoena the records.

Drug testing, I honestly have mixed feelings about that, I don't really like it, but I also don't really want to be picking up the slack for people that are getting wasted in their off hours either.

Things like this work because in the US Human Resources is usually staffed by people who are of little to no value. I've never worked anywhere that had HR staff that wasn't filled with sadistic morons, I sincerely hope that isn't the case everywhere. If you're familiar with Catbert, that's where Adams got the inspiration from.
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hedwards: Not really, Facebook is ultimately evil and people signing up are selling the rest of us out. It's gotten to the point where if you don't have a Facebook account you can be deprived of employment for refusing to hand over a facebook password. You can't enter a lot of contests without a FB account. Really and truly, it represents a truly vile enterprise. And that's before you consider all the pictures that go up there of other people that are then face scanned and indexed.
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stonebro: Amen. Facebook needs to disappear. Sadly, it won't. Zynga will certainly crash and burn. They're facing losses of upwards of $100 million pr. quarter now. They've made some incredibly poor investment decision, and they appear to have no ability to innovate. Goodbye, Zynga.
I've been messing around a little bit with Diaspora, but I don't ever do anything with my real name online. I did a quick google search for myself a few days ago and couldn't find anything at all anywhere that people would actually look. I think that if I went 15 pages or more, I might find one picture. And unless you knew what name to look for you probably wouldn't even know it was the right picture.

Short of 1337 haxxoring, people aren't going to be finding information about me online.
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stonebro: Amen. Facebook needs to disappear.
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IronStar: Now, if someone could just explain me, why the heck do you want Facebook dead, except it's invasion of privacy and tons of idiots out there, and both are quite easy to avoid....
The problem for me is that other people put non-FB users' information on FB where we get no protection at all from FB's abusive privacy policies.
Post edited October 11, 2012 by hedwards
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IronStar: That's....utter violation of privacy I guess? Disgusting. While I do realize why do they want drug test, but this is pushing it. Unless that job was absolutely necessary, and I had no alternative, they would be told to f* off.
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hedwards: I doubt that it's going to catch on, but then again, I also didn't think that people would voluntarily give the FBI that sort of access to their personal lives, and well people are giving all that information to one place where the FBI can quickly subpoena the records. Drug testing, I honestly have mixed feelings about that, I don't really like it, but I also don't really want to be picking up the slack for people that are getting wasted in their off hours either. Things like this work because in the US Human Resources is usually staffed by people who are of little to no value. I've never worked anywhere that had HR staff that wasn't filled with sadistic morons, I sincerely hope that isn't the case everywhere. If you're familiar with Catbert, that's where Adams got the inspiration from.
Well, only you chose what is shared about you there, so FBI only gets what you allow it. No one forces you to upload any private info/photos. :)
Also you have to go extra mile with stupidity to write that you did/are planning to do something illegal/stupid. I think everyone by now knows cops use FB for quick lookups. Or at least so do I hope...