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Make a list of games you've tried to get, but can't
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maydayp there should be a public list of games that GOG has tried to get, but for one reason or another cannot 'host'/sell. example: XYZ: could make compatable for enough OS's DCB: Developers/company refused to allow us. you don't even need a reason. Though it would stop people from saying stupid things, and maybe help get those games released (who know what tricks GOG users know)
Lovstrelva This is actually a pretty good idea that I'm sure not many people have ever thought of. So great work! And yeah, I agree with the idea, as it opens up doors of opportunities for GOG to also welcome the help of its users in assisting them to get those games here on GOG. That said, I don't know about the legalities surrounding a feature such as this, since I have a feeling that some game companies may view this step taken by GOG (if GOG indeed tried to implement this) as something bothersome. But still, I hope this gets implemented.
L1FEsUniverse Superb idea because if you donˋt tell it to that you tried than they will always bring up those games in the Community Wishlist and that also leads to a lot of dublicates which is more unwanted work for you, lists to endlessly scroll through for users and users might think they are just getting ignored. If there‘s clear legal proplems with certain games than a note should pop up that the game you want to add to the Community Wishlist won‘t come due to music licences or whatever the reason is or that you spoke to the publishers or whatever you are legally allowed to tell us about what the publishers have said to you.
JakobFel I get why they don't do this but on the flip side, doing so would show everyone just how much GOG works to get these games on our site here. Furthermore, it would show when publishers are to blame for games not being released here.
-76- I do like the idea and would like to know of the developers/publishers that will not allow a drm free version of their game.
But from a business perspective to create a list of companies that refused to sell through you would be frowned on and scare a lot of potential devs/pubs from even entering negotations with GoG.
Molkor06 On one hand, advertising your failures is not usually a good idea. On the other, a list of games in Copyright Purgatory would be kinda fun.
hold that thought.
Meganeura I have to join with the posters saying no to this. While I'm certainly curious as to what GOG may have attempted to get in the past, I understand it's not really good business on their end to display every deal that didn't work out. Besides, I don't really agree with the attitude "we tried, but we can't get this game." It should be "we're trying, but we haven't gotten it yet." On that note, GOG's current practice of displaying when wishlist items are "In Progress" is already the best approach I can think of.
V3nom I spoke with seceral indy devs, and it appears that for a lot of them, it's more GoG who don't really push forward for their (recent) games to be added in GoG than because of lazy or unwilling devs...
The whole process should be WAY more visible.
dmarkoni Interesting...
Arakius Great idea of topic im waiting for Freelancer is it even possible ???
Binak As t0suj4 says, this could give PR and relationship problems if a publisher just doesn't want to share their games. Also, we already know that some will just not share, like EA or Blizzard, or that share before but no more, like Bethesda.
On the other hand, it could exist a list that can't be ported because of technical reasons, in that case, it maybe could even help if someone knows a workaround that could be shared.
andreasaspenberg2 good idea.
Binak Maybe just give explain some of the difficulties to get some games due to licenses and other legal problems that make getting some games impossible. I see a lot of wishes about Bethesda, EA and Blizzard games that have no chance of happening.
t0suj4 I can't agree with this. This would open developers to potentional harassment and give GOG bad reputation.
WarbossAohd Would make easier on everyone.
Cloning_Termites Yes, this! I wanna know if we'll ever get KOA:Reckoning or not. Just tell us dammit!
fridgeband This would be great!
throAU definitely would like this, would make me think twice about supporting certain publishers if the reason was "no we won't let you put this old game on GOG"
XzavierHyde This could make the Community Wishlist much more useful (and hopefully less cluttered). A suggestion to avoid publicly shaming the developers would be to make the "rejected"-list available only to a few "community leaders" who could contact the developers and possibly assist them if they are actually interested in getting the games released.
IdkSomeNublette The original System Shock wasn't likely to show up because of the confused mess that was its copyright situation, but here we are.
deaded123 I'd like this so that I can know that there is no chance of me getting access to a game, say, the Discworld series, and so that I then don't spend ages waiting hopefully for a game that the developers and gog themselves know will never be added here.
However, I can also understand that not doing this to prevent mobbings is a good idea. Which is a shame.
sennarc this is a good idea
Haringat Though I understand the motivation behind this (less entries on the games wishlist that won't make it anyway as well as better feedback on these) I also doubt that it will ever happen because what you would essentially do is to pillory the game's developer and probably even make them reconsider ever adding a game to GOG.com again.
gamesfreak64 Just voted.
This would be really handy: i have so many old games i love to see here, the sad thing is many of these devs/publishers are already on GoG but for some unknown reason they DONT add ALL their games.
One big example: Deep Silver: Its mainly 3d and 3d is not my type of game and i cant play it (motionsickness).
So i am fan of the DeepSilver Secret Files, 1,2,3 and sam peeters
These are available everywhere ( drm/steam/tages) even out on android and other platforms.
Gog doesnt have them, there is no reason mentioned why , so i assume the publishers dont want to sell them here drm free ,they do sell newer games like abc murders so why not the old ones?
Its frustrating if publishers dont sell ALL the games they have.
A list would clear up things and this way we know we dont have to vote for them on the community wishlist anymore,(because it wont arrive) or have to ask for them.
skeletonbow One more thing to add over what I said in my previous post. What is being requested here essentially boils down to two things:
1) Please provide us with a list of games you've rejected GOG to help us form a lynch mob to attack you to death over decisions you have made that we disagree with like a pack of rabid wolves.
and
2) Please give us a list of game companies that rejected you GOG and why so that we can organize a massive lynch mobs to go after them and tear them limb from limb, start boycott campaigns and play a real life game of Postal 2.
Yeah, not going to happen in a billion years.
skeletonbow Yeah, this is never going to happen. Sure, there are tonnes of people that would love to have this, but neither GOG, nor the video game developers/publishers have anything to gain from it and a lot to lose. The reason people want this information is so they have fuel to add to their fire to argue with GOG and/or the game company because their pet game isn't here. Why would GOG or some company offer up private behind the scenes business transaction details like this into the public eye only to expose either or both sides to the raging anger of a million gamers?
This is private business negotiations that are none of anyone's business and it can and should stay that way really, and there may even be legal NDAs to keep that stuff private. Sometimes indie developers that have one of their crappy games rejected get all pissy about it and whine publicly (probably in violation of an NDA), but that is about all anyone will ever hear about it IMHO as there is no positive incentive for anyone else in the know to share this kind of private information and go up against a raging mad hoard demanding justification for business decisions made (by GOG or the developer or publisher of the games).
Another "not going to happen in a million years" wish for the ole breadbox. LOL
etb "Why? Do direct a zombie army of whiners to developers?"
Of course it won't happen, people are too lazy. But it would be wonderful if it happened. Imagine the headline: "We were not considering gog, but we got a zombie invasion and we could not work anymore. So we had to."
Dean_Demon A lot of games GOG just wouldn't ever be able to get, legal issue's aside many of the original creators simply have no interest if having those games being made available to a modern platform and for other reasons GOG would have to point of contact which i assure you is a big reason too.
iwonderdoi Why? Do direct a zombie army of whiners to developers?
##@@##@@ Look at this from another angle. Instead of highlighting the games that will not come to GOG (thereby antagonizing developers/companies who do not release a game onto this platform) we instead highlight the developers/companies who choose to release games onto this platform.
This therefore shows GOG & it's community in a more positive light, and potentially improve the chances of DRM-Free content arriving on the platform from other developers/companies.
I have asked GOG if there was anyway the GOG community could help them acquire more DRM-Free content on the "Continue to be DRM-Free..." wish page.
ZMacZ Yes..would be nice..also..you may actually get some help that way ?..
Also, if doing so, list a reason for why not ?..
makes big diff if "price is too high", or "no-one wants to sell distribution rights.." or "people who can sell distribution rights don't exist anymore.."
Cuz the first reason is weighing vs. pay-off, the second reason something a lil more insurmountable and the last one...well..you can't break steel with bare hands right ?..
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empeace I'd rather know for sure that a game would never be added here than just wait for it forever.
ironhide0 There's no point in potentially upsetting developers, there are numerous reasons why develpers might choose not to use gog. It's in gog's interest to highlight any demand for a game so they will let developers know about the community wish list.
idemandcookies I agree with @mkell_226 in that this would create hostility towards GOG. Nevertheless, I second @bbaileys and @Davane; these could prove extremely helpful in convincing insecure publishers.
brianjenkins94 This would be a really nice feature. I have a list of games I want, but only really want them from GOG. Also, if we had some way of removing duplicates or combing through the requests, I see no reason why the users couldn't make the list more reflective of what's actually being voted upon.
Shmacky-McNuts Lucas Arts got bought by Disney and they may want to sell old titles. A profit back in any old product adds up. So who knows =)
Seiki_Sands A nice addendum to this feature would be quarterly or tri-annual updates for the top 50 most requested games. In other words, if the Lucas Arts license holders say no to Tie Fighter series, or Full Throttle, or Grim Fandango, or the Monkey Island series, or the Indiana Jones series (LucasArts accounts for a great deal of the most requested games) Gog.com treats the feature as a self-imposed obligation to make another offer every three or four months and update that an offer was made if contract law doesn't forbid it. And rather than being afraid of users harassing the publishers for not going along, provide an outlet in the form of Gog.com sponsored petitions that can be controlled for content and sent to publishers as part of the hard sell Although that being said, hopefully Gog was sensible enough to mention to Lucas that when you include all the variations the games I mentioned, Gog users have requested their games to the tune of 150,000+ requests and if that hasn't moved them, I don't know what will.
bbaileys Maybe using a hybrid system for requests would work. You could still use the wishlist system to get a game nominated. Then when it reaches a certain level go to a crowd sourcing method. Place a pledge system for a game that when you pledge to purchase a game it is a binding contract to purchase the game. You would have to put a limit on the time frame for this pledge system 90-180 days. This would give GOG some proof of the demand for the game and a guaranteed profit the publishers would see. If a game fails to get picked up this would be an indication that GOG tried and failed. This does not give any indication of why, but we would know it was attempted.
KiNgBrAdLeY7 Yes! This is a good idea! This way, we get to know which companies to avoid, and which developers NOT do business with!
Davane Maybe there could be a compromise solution here? Rather than listing all games that failed to make it, GOG could list only those games with specific reasons, such as thinking their isn't a public demand for their game. In essence, rather than being a list of "failed attempts," this could become a call for help from the community instead.
mkell_226 It'd be REALLY hard to enter into negotiations with anyone if GoG started posting games they tried to get and failed. For one thing, there's nothing saying that a publisher might change their mind later, but one thing that would virtually guarantee that they WON'T change their mind is having a bunch of fans sending angry emails and tweets once they find out that their favorite game didn't make it here.
etb Well, SL61 might be right, but the problem is of publishers/developers problem. Not gog's...
Anamon Realistically I think this is legally impossible in most cases. Such negotiations are usually covered by non-disclosure agreements, under which they can't even state whether negotiations have taken place at all. Most publishers will insist on that.
Other than that, the only downside I would see is that GOG would lose some of its mystery and suspense! Right now we're wondering and hoping and speculating, and suddenly, System Shock 2 appears in the store! Being told that we won't be getting a certain game could be crushingly disappointing, hehe.
Cabzx Yeah this would be helpful.
e2d8f771639e817243 I add my support. This would help users trying to obtain older games.
##@@##@@ Absolutely, a great idea!
SpellSword I think Enmoku has a point.
squid830 Definitely! Anything anyone has ever tried to ask for should but that's not (currently or ever) possibly to get should be listed somewhere, with a reason.
This includes stupid requests for games that actually don't exist on the PC - at least this way the requests board wouldn't be so full of unrealistic requests.
DRM_free_fan @ SL61: Yes, it could. I'm going to vote for this now!
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