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FTSO: We are living in strange days, when that Bethesdian way starts to infect everywhere, if CDPR launches a mod tool, they may even end with no necessity of lauch complete games, just the basic to work and an engine with good visuals, just bring an official workshop with patches and stuff, and ways to buy coins. X)
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wayke: Todd Howard revised his stance on Modding games as it does not generate revenue after the fact, That absurd store they added to Fallout 4 anyone using that is a parasite, People forgot what happened with the ValveMod Store issue what a pathetic idea.
He saw the power of haver a cheap workforce to fix his games long ago, it was amazing how Fallout 4 was spitting mods on that store at launch, faster as his spitt bugs.

Then, Skyrim Special Edition, born to shove the same workshop there, with the 64 bits version the only good part. Then, Fallout 76, a total clusterfuck in form of tech, lore, PR, merchandise, but we have the Atom Store. Then, Blades, a shit Elder Scrolls for mobile, the last try on monetize something, now with lootboxes, I mean, chests.

But there is a consumer, the console user, because only insane PC gamers buy on any of this stores, when we have the Nexus.
Post edited January 11, 2021 by user deleted
They really just need to release a proper modding tool that can edit quests, factions, AI, etc. and the modders will repair this game better than 10 paid DLCs. The devs motivation is to deliver the game under the pressure of the management. The community motivation is to play the game in the best way possible. Modding is the only realistic solution to all the complaints and make everyone happy(except consoles ofc).

I mean even without official modding support mods are already doing amazing stuff(console commands, save editor, weather mod, minimap fix, etc...).
Post edited January 11, 2021 by gog666dmc
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wayke: Todd Howard revised his stance on Modding games as it does not generate revenue after the fact, That absurd store they added to Fallout 4 anyone using that is a parasite, People forgot what happened with the ValveMod Store issue what a pathetic idea.
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FTSO: He saw the power of haver a cheap workforce to fix his games long ago, it was amazing how Fallout 4 was spitting mods on that store at launch, faster as his spitt bugs.

Then, Skyrim Special Edition, born to shove the same workshop there, with the 64 bits version the only good part. Then, Fallout 76, a total clusterfuck in form of tech, lore, PR, merchandise, but we have the Atom Store. Then, Blades, a shit Elder Scrolls for mobile, the last try on monetize something, now with lootboxes, I mean, chests.

But there is a consumer, the console user, because only insane PC gamers buy on any of this stores, when we have the Nexus.
Creation Club was added afterwards for Fallout 4 in patch 1.10 which was 2 Years after the initial game release, They copied the failed valve Idea of paid mods, Entire communities works were stolen and sold on Creation Club it's not something to praise the best content is probably on Nexusmods still, The whole thing destroyed the Core of Modding in the first place, It's not incentivising people to work together with that structure.
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Wrath-Amon: Well, its fun game. Id say 6,5 out of 10. Story is nice, characters remarkable, but gameplay itself is a lackluster, so it feels like some Assasin creed or Far Cry. Dull and boring gigs yea and only for one playthrough, but hey, its not a mmo. Same crap as Horizon Down, but cheaper. Skyrim is better in any RPG terms, yea, but still... I just dont get all this hate, kinda ppl were waiting this game like second coming of Jesus. Gues u guys, shouldnt be too attached to computer games.
Like all sheeple, they bought completely into the hype. So they expected the greatest Cybperunk game ever made in human history on December 10, 2020... Instead, they got a game that was nothing close even though the game is good on the PC if you don't mind bugs.
Post edited January 11, 2021 by PITERDEVRIES2077
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FTSO: He saw the power of haver a cheap workforce to fix his games long ago, it was amazing how Fallout 4 was spitting mods on that store at launch, faster as his spitt bugs.

Then, Skyrim Special Edition, born to shove the same workshop there, with the 64 bits version the only good part. Then, Fallout 76, a total clusterfuck in form of tech, lore, PR, merchandise, but we have the Atom Store. Then, Blades, a shit Elder Scrolls for mobile, the last try on monetize something, now with lootboxes, I mean, chests.

But there is a consumer, the console user, because only insane PC gamers buy on any of this stores, when we have the Nexus.
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wayke: Creation Club was added afterwards for Fallout 4 in patch 1.10 which was 2 Years after the initial game release, They copied the failed valve Idea of paid mods, Entire communities works were stolen and sold on Creation Club it's not something to praise the best content is probably on Nexusmods still, The whole thing destroyed the Core of Modding in the first place, It's not incentivising people to work together with that structure.
two years after? I was for sure it was there at launch... shit, it was only spitting bugs so.

anyway, I bet more Creation Club wonders are coming for Starfield and TES VI.
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wayke: Creation Club was added afterwards for Fallout 4 in patch 1.10 which was 2 Years after the initial game release, They copied the failed valve Idea of paid mods, Entire communities works were stolen and sold on Creation Club it's not something to praise the best content is probably on Nexusmods still, The whole thing destroyed the Core of Modding in the first place, It's not incentivising people to work together with that structure.
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FTSO: two years after? I was for sure it was there at launch... shit, it was only spitting bugs so.

anyway, I bet more Creation Club wonders are coming for Starfield and TES VI.
Creation Club is trash it was created to generate pocket money for Todd, It will always be Trash Consoles can be modded also the limitations on the console though is performance will not increase overtime unlike PC so heavy mods will be wasted there realism type titled ones.

Microsoft own it all now and their stance will be to lock up these older games and make everything into a microtransaction it's pathetic.
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wayke: Microsoft own it all now and their stance will be to lock up these older games and make everything into a microtransaction it's pathetic.
Oh shit, I thought Microsoft was an open-minded, user-friendly company... FUUCCKKKKKKKKK
...still better than Sony right? or I don't know, like than Apple?
Post edited January 11, 2021 by gog666dmc
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wayke: Microsoft own it all now and their stance will be to lock up these older games and make everything into a microtransaction it's pathetic.
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gog666dmc: Oh shit, I thought Microsoft was an open-minded, user-friendly company... FUUCCKKKKKKKKK
...still better than Sony right? or I don't know, like than Apple?
I doubt they are going to hold the Zenimax cattle as exclusives, at least for a while, between Microsoft and Sony, i choose Vodka, but Playstation is probably going to overshadow Xbox again, so, even if bad optimized, the sells are there.

That´s why I love the message Cyberpunk 2077 shows, fuck the corporations, CDPR´s sure is teaching a lesson.... oh...
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gog666dmc: Oh shit, I thought Microsoft was an open-minded, user-friendly company... FUUCCKKKKKKKKK
...still better than Sony right? or I don't know, like than Apple?
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FTSO: I doubt they are going to hold the Zenimax cattle as exclusives, at least for a while, between Microsoft and Sony, i choose Vodka, but Playstation is probably going to overshadow Xbox again, so, even if bad optimized, the sells are there.

That´s why I love the message Cyberpunk 2077 shows, fuck the corporations, CDPR´s sure is teaching a lesson.... oh...
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FTSO: I doubt they are going to hold the Zenimax cattle as exclusives, at least for a while, between Microsoft and Sony, i choose Vodka, but Playstation is probably going to overshadow Xbox again, so, even if bad optimized, the sells are there.

That´s why I love the message Cyberpunk 2077 shows, fuck the corporations, CDPR´s sure is teaching a lesson.... oh...
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wayke: Here's a Wallpaper for you
Yeah, I even can't say "but this on the past generation" because the game was announced to run there too...