GB?

Great Britain.

Stay silent, cry in the pillow, keep our little secret and you will be ok.

Sounds familiar.

Did I stay silent?

1. I find that hard to believe. In order to record he'd have to take the phone out and start the recording app, and that action alone would likley be noticeable by a teacher trained to watch for such things.

2. So you're saying or trying to say the kid might've done it to cause a problem? That the kid was like "I know....i'll go into school today and say something controversial for laughs and to start sh*t with everyone"?

I find it easier to believe he said something many people also feel(but cannot say due to today's PC world) and that the authorities(school admins/etc) wanted to cover it up after it blew up online and caused them bad PR, and when it became too much they expelled the kid in retaliation. Like when a cop/etc will give you a charge that'll stick or say you are in trouble for some other reason to avoid controversy from charging someone for something that might be seen as them being racist/insensitive/etc.

3-4. That article is a nice addition to the thread but who's to say they aren't biased as well?

Thx for the clarification.

If this is a dig at Starchan I ask that no one diss others itt.

Yes.

I assume you are not stupid, then in that specific case - you attempted to take a pro-pedo*** side, by supporting the "cover up" part specifically. Hence you are guilty in bending the society in the direction, which justifies unlegal activity in public institutions and should be actually legally prosecuted and searched for evidence if you are in a sane democratic** country.

Or you can just claim that you were stupid (or variation of it) and be done with it. However this won't erase the case.

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*** its about children and sexual topic and making secrets, people who steriotypically surface in *intersection* of these terms are pedophiles.

** "sane democratic" - assumption is, majority of parents REALLY and extremely care what kind of information is put inside their children brain or what they are taught. Since democracy is opinion of majority and sane means opposite of weird - this finds application.

Again I ask that no one bash/mock those adding to the thread regardless of if they support the side I ake or are critical of it. Mocking or bashing others(unless they are trolls, in which case i'd rather they be reported) is not acceptable behavior for adults and ITT especially.

Thank you for your consideration.

I never go to *chan boards, if you mean that, not my iq level. If you want me to stop pushing the direction, no problem, at your responsibility.

I meant starchan, the one you were replying to. I ask that no one mock other users in my threads unless they are trolling, and even then i'd rather such people be reported rather than mocked.

Hard to believe? Hidden recordings are made all the time, often at camera angles way less awkward. He would of course start the recording before he entered into the confrontation.

All media has bias, but The Independent is considered one of the serious newspapers and I'm more linclined to have faith in their source criticism than any youtuber or Fox news reel. Furthermore, The Independent is closer to home, more likely to be able and willing to investigate the source.

The Independent article documents well the nature of the 'conversation' for those who haven't seen the vid and it is apparent that the student does not want to end the exchange before he has captured something which will get attention online.

I have bolded a statement of yours. In it, you treat the dubious claim that he was ejected because of the gender statement, not substantiated anywhere, again, as though it was a confirmed fact. This informs me that what you want to believe takes presedence over any source criticism that you might engage in.

Suffice it to say, had you been a journalist, you'd probably work for The National Enquirer.

You don't get it. I'm active in this debate, so I'm not silent. As for the rest of your rant, you are hardly coherent. Paedophilia??! What does that have to do with anything debated in this contect?

I think you will find that all kinds of people, of all ages and political inclinations, would speak up against peadophilia, both in general, and when it comes to uncovering specific cases.

That said, stay on topic.

1. If he did it on purpose he would, but if he didn't know the action would get him into trouble to such an extent he probably wouldn't know to do so. Also as Dadjoke(iirc) said in this case it's reasonable)even if against school rules) to protect one legally/etc....though of course he shouldn't have posted it online. Still, suspending him ONCE should have been enough...to suspend him again then expel him seems like they had it in for him and just wanted him gone.

2. Any source is prone to bias, though, regardless of how good they have performed in the past. Also they likely got their info from school officials and I doubt the same officials would say if they expelled the kid for reasons that might make them look bad.

3. This may be so but the initial comment that got him into trouble is what he was officially punished for initially, and he didn't prolong that bit.

4. I state it as that is what I believe due to how the world(and especially the UK) has been handling such incidents worldwide as of late with even the most seemingly innocent of comments & individuals. As I have seen such behavior before from school/etc officials I tend to defer to the stance that it is very likely they overly punished him for speaking his mind and making their stance on the matter public(i.e. retaliatory punishment).

Also remember he was told(allegedly) to not speak to press or be punished even more. If true this is a blatant bit of censorship and coercion.

In the end I am willing to accept being wrong if proper proof is presented, it's just hard to do so due to how I view the world as of late(of course it's not impossible and I am willing to admit being wrong and make corrections).

5. This last bit is a bit of a low blow, don't you think?





Some people try their best to derail threads or cause problems with those they dislike on various sites....pay such no mind and we will all be better for it. :)

I see that you are now factoring in the possibility that certain claims, such as the one about being expelled twice, may not be verified. That is commendable.

Yes, it was a low blow. It was way too tempting. My apologies.

Edit:

Just on a side note: I, too, would find it appaling if somebody were to be suspended from schools for speaking their minds. But should any such cases (not merely claims possibly attributed to other circumstances, such as here) crop up, they would certainly be exceptions. I think there is room for opinion in schools in general. Teachers will disagree, and you will have a debate, and the debate will usually involve other students too. It's integral to the way academia works, and it informs high school teaching as well.

Students are suspended for bad behaviour, not for having opinions.

1. Thank you...also it was suspended twice. And to be fair that bit could be verified by checking with school records/officials I believe(if such records are publically accessible).

2. Thank you for that bit as well(the apology).


Addition: Thanks once again for engaging in dialog and adding to the thread. It is a nice thing to see even if I don't always agree with someone, and is why I make such threads.

Indeed, suspended, not expelled. For a Norwegian (at least this one) there are sometimes just too many potatoes to sort.