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PimPamPet: Considering how people felt about Wolfenstein 3D's pricing, imagine these showing up on GOG for 10 bucks apiece! :-)
The gog prices aren't that bad, I think Wolfenstein 3D and Spear of Destiny were about $10 each when they were still being sold as downloads at idsoftware.com. I don't think I would pay that for Castle Wolfenstein though...
Can't say Id pay for those. Always thought they were crap.
I just watched some gameplay of those..

Pretty bad. =D

If gog would add them as free games I guess I could play them few minutes.
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PimPamPet: Considering how people felt about Wolfenstein 3D's pricing, imagine these showing up on GOG for 10 bucks apiece! :-)
Since they haven't seen a digital release yet and aren't owned by Bethesda, I doubt that they would price them that much. I think that the only reason why Wolfenstein 3D is sold here for $10 in the first place, is because it also includes the Spear of Destiny expansion, which Bethesda sells separately on Steam for the same price as Wolfenstein 3D (5+5=10, the same as GOG's price).

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PimPamPet: Including the sixth episode, which is missing from the pack on Steam for some reason.
Probably because the 6th episode wasn't published by Apogee, but by FormGen (who now belongs to Atari) and as such, there are probably conflicts of ownership rights.
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Grargar: I doubt that they would price them that much.
I know, I was only kidding.

Re: Keen 6, wasn't Spear of Destiny also published by FormGen? Seems they worked out the rights to that one.
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PimPamPet: Re: Keen 6, wasn't Spear of Destiny also published by FormGen? Seems they worked out the rights to that one.
It's possible that FormGen had only distribution rights for Spear of Destiny and ownership rights for Commander Keen 6 (interestingly, Apogee had distribution rights for Commander Keen 6 that expired).
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jcoa: I'm talking about the original Castle Wolfenstien and Beyond Castle Woflenstien games from Muse Software. Does Bethesda own the rights to those games, or are they still with Muse or whatever's left of that company?

http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/castle_wolfenstein

http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/beyond_castle_wolfenstein
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Grargar: According to Mobygames, id Software never bought the rights to those two games. Instead, they are being owned by the owner of the company responsible for the development and publishing of those two games; Jack L. Vogt.
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jcoa: Also, any chance of Keen Dreams coming to gog? I know neither Bethesda nor 3D Realms own that game, but did the guy who does own it at least try to submit the game to gog?
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/commander_keen_keen_dreams
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Grargar: Bethesda actually co-publishes the game on Steam.
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mk47at: I'm pretty sure that the original Castle Wolfenstein has been released as freeware.
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Grargar: Source for that? Wikipedia only mentions Wolfenstein 3D as being free in a browser-based form.
Strange, Keen Dreams' store page just updated the publisher info as just Harddisk Productions, with id Software as the developer.
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jcoa: Strange, Keen Dreams' store page just updated the publisher info as just Harddisk Productions, with id Software as the developer.
Well, previously it mentioned both Hard Disk Publishing and Bethesda as the publishers.
Interesting, I didn't realize there actually was a PC (DOS) version of the first Castle Wolfenstein game. I thought it was only for the 8-bit systems like Apple IIc, Commodore 64 and Atari somethingsomething.

EDIT: Oh, apparently the DOS version came many years after the original (1981 vs 1984). I was actually wondering how come a DOS game could appear in 1981, that was more like CP/M era still.

The sequel was not listed for DOS, but for "PC Booter". What is a PC Booter?
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timppu: The sequel was not listed for DOS, but for "PC Booter". What is a PC Booter?
It's a term used after harddisks becoming mainstream in PC's, basically PC Booter means that the game boots directly from floppy/media, which was normal on all early PC's and homecomputers.
Post edited October 07, 2015 by Strijkbout
I actually had the first one for my Apple ][c back in the day, played with a green monochrome monitor. One of the very first games I had after upgrading from the TRS-80.

From what little I can recall, it would barely qualify as a game by today's standards.

This is roughly what I recall it looking like.
Post edited October 07, 2015 by yogsloth
Anyone ever play Castle Smurfenstein?
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Grargar: According to Mobygames, id Software never bought the rights to those two games. Instead, they are being owned by the owner of the company responsible for the development and publishing of those two games; Jack L. Vogt.

Bethesda actually co-publishes the game on Steam.

Source for that? Wikipedia only mentions Wolfenstein 3D as being free in a browser-based form.
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jcoa: Strange, Keen Dreams' store page just updated the publisher info as just Harddisk Productions, with id Software as the developer.
Keen Dreams' source code was released last year and it's on Steam Greenlight. This also reminds me to find out what happened with the final release, I haven't heard anything in quite a while.

EDIT: Apparently the keys for those of us that backed the campaign should be coming in the near future.
Post edited October 07, 2015 by hedwards
Did John Carmack have anything to do with those games?
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timppu: The sequel was not listed for DOS, but for "PC Booter". What is a PC Booter?
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Strijkbout: It's a term used after harddisks becoming mainstream in PC's, basically PC Booter means that the game boots directly from floppy/media, which was normal on all early PC's and homecomputers.
Ie. the floppy game doesn't install on the hard disk, but reads and writes all the game data to/from the floppy?

I guess I came to PC gaming after it had become a norm that PC games are completely installed on the hard disk, and if there was any "DRM", it would be something like asking for a keyword from the manual. The floppies were usually used only during the installation.

Then again, I have a faint recollection of playing Sopwith from a floppy disk as a kid...

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Crosmando: Did John Carmack have anything to do with those games?
Yeah, he probably played them as a kid on his father's Apple IIc.
Post edited October 07, 2015 by timppu