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Hm, only read the Warhammer 40.000 books. Mostly the Horus Heresy timeline that led to the emperor's downfall and to the current Empire of Man situation. Definitely worth a read. A lot of battles and action.
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Breja: I DMed a few campaigns and single adventures in Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay (2ed), but honestly, I always treated the lore very loosly.Mostly because Warhammer is such a grimdark world, and I wanted the game to be fun, and also I didn't want to get bogged down in stuff that some players, knowing the world would endlessly dispute, while those who don't know it would feel all lost.

Basically, the gist of it, as far as I get it, is this:

It's kind of Tolkien-esqu, with the classic races like Dwarfs and Elves, but darker and bloodier. It's not going for a beautifull fable or a mythical tale, it's far more down to earth. The main evil force is the Chaos gods, with their cults, mutants, spreading corruption, dark magic, etc. The "good guys" is the usuall set of Humans, Dwarf and Elves, but no one is really all that good. Especially the humans and their Empire are not really all that pleasant, at least unless you're a fan of the Inquisition, burning people at the stake and stuff like that. Wizards get much more fear than respect, and most likely everyone has some nasty agenda of their own. A lot of stuff is the familiar, stereotypical stuff- elves are best at magic, dwarfs love technology, Orcs are the go-to stupid evil henchmen. You have your undead, your dragons and your giants.

There are other human kingdoms than the medieval Germany-like Empire, there's Norska, where you have this worlds version of vikings, Kislev, which is sort-of Russia and Bretonnia, which is sort of a mix between medieval France and England from the Arthurian myths.

I don't think you'll need much knowledge of the lore for Total War, and if you do want it you'll likely get a lot of it fom wikipedia. But if you want to buy something to get more, I guess the core rulebook for Fantasy Roleplay will give you most of what you need, it has the rundown of the world's history, describes how magic works, and all such stuff.
I also found out that the World Map of Warhammer fantasy looks EXACTLY like Earth:

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfantasybattle/images/d/d4/World_warhammer.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110623215026

So any quick summeries of the key characters in this world?

I noticed this guy Thorgrim Grudgebearer, High King of the Dwarves and his "Great Book of Grudges"

I assume he must not have many friends?
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ScotchMonkey: I love the lore more than anything. I had some models when I was like 13, but didn't know anyone who i could play with :(

Shit like that is what kept me from card games and D&D. I just didn't know anyone who played. Sad now.
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adaliabooks: Same here.
Me and my brother used to play, but there are only so many times you can play the same petson before it gets boring (plus he then went to college and there was no on to play against)

Would have loved to get into a lot of CCGs and other games but the lack of opponents always meant it wasn't worth bothering...

I wish someone would make a computer version of Warhammer (or even just something similar as I doubt GW would ever do it), not Total War or Dawn of War but an actual representation of the rules with army building, customisable models and online campaign tools so you could run campaigns against other people...
Knowing GW they would DLC and microtransact the shit out of it.
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Sachys: Also, I don't think warcraft or starcraft are anything like the warhammer games.
^This.
the amount of people have to sacrificed everyday to keep the dead emperor alive, alone makes it a dark all gone to shit lore

try the space wolves novel, Ragnar is awesome. Gaunts ghost and the first last chancer novel was good too, rest just look it up on wiki, they have enough lore there

As for warhammer non 40k, try felix and gotrik novel, i really enjoyed them. Daemon slayer, dragon slayer and specially beast slayer deals with the setting close to the upcoming total war game


My fav Legion of the Damned, even khrone cowers before them
I played many of the older Warhammer games, and then got into the 40K universe after playing the first 3 games of the Dawn of War series. I enjoyed it so much, I went out and bought the book Blood Ravens-Dawn of War Ominbus, which loosely tells the story of the games. As I had barely touched the edge of the 40K universe, I then proceeded to look into other Black Library books,and eventually started reading the the Horus Heresy Series beginning with book 1 Horus Rising. Anyway, think I'm up to book 8 or 9 now, and am presently reading something different, for a quick break,till I return to the series again. I f you are interested in getting a relatively quick, and enjoyable tale to get you up to speed as to what the 40K universe is all about, I highly recommend taking a few minutes to view this awesome and most enjoyable episode from Bruva Alfabusa on YouTube: The Emperor's Excellent Autobiography
Probably one of the best online resource for Warhammer 40k and not only.

http://www.lexicanum.com/
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Sachys: As someone who has been into GW stuff since the early 80s, I can tell you that the "lore" represented in the video games of the last few decades is pretty weak compared to what it was - though as often with these kinds of things, each new edition is a little remixed / rebooted. It's still a far cry from Rogue Trader and the first edition of warhammer (having decades of stuff built upon it - and much other stuff watered down). I doubt you'll need to know much the game won't tell you to get a deep feeling of lore - but it will leave out the majority - and usually thats the good stuff.

I'd just play some of the older games and go from there if you like it.

Also, I don't think warcraft or starcraft are anything like the warhammer games.
So question regarding this trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjzLuddjIUI

1. Who is the old man?

2. What was this magic that turned him blue and became all evil looking?

3. What was the "Bird" like creature that roared in the end of the trailer that looks obviously evil.
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Breja: I DMed a few campaigns and single adventures in Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay (2ed), but honestly, I always treated the lore very loosly.Mostly because Warhammer is such a grimdark world, and I wanted the game to be fun, and also I didn't want to get bogged down in stuff that some players, knowing the world would endlessly dispute, while those who don't know it would feel all lost.

Basically, the gist of it, as far as I get it, is this:

It's kind of Tolkien-esqu, with the classic races like Dwarfs and Elves, but darker and bloodier. It's not going for a beautifull fable or a mythical tale, it's far more down to earth. The main evil force is the Chaos gods, with their cults, mutants, spreading corruption, dark magic, etc. The "good guys" is the usuall set of Humans, Dwarf and Elves, but no one is really all that good. Especially the humans and their Empire are not really all that pleasant, at least unless you're a fan of the Inquisition, burning people at the stake and stuff like that. Wizards get much more fear than respect, and most likely everyone has some nasty agenda of their own. A lot of stuff is the familiar, stereotypical stuff- elves are best at magic, dwarfs love technology, Orcs are the go-to stupid evil henchmen. You have your undead, your dragons and your giants.

There are other human kingdoms than the medieval Germany-like Empire, there's Norska, where you have this worlds version of vikings, Kislev, which is sort-of Russia and Bretonnia, which is sort of a mix between medieval France and England from the Arthurian myths.

I don't think you'll need much knowledge of the lore for Total War, and if you do want it you'll likely get a lot of it fom wikipedia. But if you want to buy something to get more, I guess the core rulebook for Fantasy Roleplay will give you most of what you need, it has the rundown of the world's history, describes how magic works, and all such stuff.
Well since Sachys did not answer my question. Breja what I said to Sachys:

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/anyone_a_fan_of_warhammer_fantasy_and_40k/post23
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Sachys: As someone who has been into GW stuff since the early 80s, I can tell you that the "lore" represented in the video games of the last few decades is pretty weak compared to what it was - though as often with these kinds of things, each new edition is a little remixed / rebooted. It's still a far cry from Rogue Trader and the first edition of warhammer (having decades of stuff built upon it - and much other stuff watered down). I doubt you'll need to know much the game won't tell you to get a deep feeling of lore - but it will leave out the majority - and usually thats the good stuff.

I'd just play some of the older games and go from there if you like it.

Also, I don't think warcraft or starcraft are anything like the warhammer games.
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Elmofongo: So question regarding this trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjzLuddjIUI

1. Who is the old man?

2. What was this magic that turned him blue and became all evil looking?

3. What was the "Bird" like creature that roared in the end of the trailer that looks obviously evil.
1.- He is a priest of Sigmar, maybe an inquisitor
2.- It's warp energy
3..- A greater daemon of Tzeentch, maybe Kairos The Fateweaver
I was really into Warhammer 40K (don't know anything about fantasy) and loved the space marines

The lore is amazing and one of the key event to know is "The Horus Heresy" which was a massive civil war that occurred in the human empire in the year 30K

I've found this really well done video which goes through the story with lots of cool random art. Part 4 of the series seems to have disappeared off the internet, however, if you get that far, you are probably interested enough to hunt down other versions of the story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXnwkw2VvRA
Well regarding Warhammer Total War it depends on where in the timeline it is. The Warhammer Fantasy Battles (Warhammer.) had a reset, reboot, swirly of the never ending circle, whatever you'd like to call it. No use reading up on the old universe lore if the setting is the new universe.
I really enjoyed the original Dawn of War game but didn't get that into the expansions. I have barely played Dawn of War 2.

One of my favorite parts of Dawn of War 1 was the Librarian's statements like "An open mind is like a fortress left unguarded and unbarred" and "knowledge is power, keep it hidden." I actually believe there is quite a bit of truth in the first quote and some measure of truth in the second.

Oh by the way, I love this illustration about the future of warfare...
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infinite9: I really enjoyed the original Dawn of War game but didn't get that into the expansions. I have barely played Dawn of War 2.

One of my favorite parts of Dawn of War 1 was the Librarian's statements like "An open mind is like a fortress left unguarded and unbarred" and "knowledge is power, keep it hidden." I actually believe there is quite a bit of truth in the first quote and some measure of truth in the second.
O you should then definitely check out the expansions of DoW 1 if you can find the time. Or are you saying you did check them out but it didn't really work for you?
Each, except the last expansion, is vastly superior to the original game imo. Winter Assault is highly regarded but I'm not a huge fan of the factions you play with in it (at least when it comes to playing as them) so I always jump straight to the 2nd expansion, Dark Crusade, which is considered by many to be the pinnacle of the Dawn of War series. To me it has the 2nd best single player campaign of any RTS out there, and has phenomenal replayability.
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infinite9: One of my favorite parts of Dawn of War 1 was the Librarian's statements like "An open mind is like a fortress left unguarded and unbarred" and "knowledge is power, keep it hidden."
These statements are tied into the WH40K lore. The Horus Heresy I mentioned a few posts up, describes how Chaos was entering the minds of the Space Marines and corrupting them, causing them to turn on their brothers. The corrupting threat of Chaos is an ever present concern for the mighty space marines.

And that picture is pretty cool.