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richlind33: A much better question, IMO, would be: what does preorder DLC have to do with ensuring that a game is finished *before* it's released?
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ZFR: And...? I wasn't arguing whether preorder DLCs are good, bad or whatnot, merely pointing out an incorrect "if p then q" argument.

EDIT: Ah... It's richlind! I was away and didn't recognize your new avatar. Well, that figures...
I see you're still in the habit of not reading what the other person is writing, so I won't bother you any further.
Actually, it's more a case of you not knowing what you're talking about. You fail to take into consideration that preorder DLC equals time and money that isn't invested in the base game, which is worse than useless -- it's detrimental to all end-users because you end up getting less, rather than more -- even if you preorder.

You missed the forest for a teeny-tiny sapling, but anal-retentiveness will do that to you. Poor guy.
Post edited May 03, 2017 by richlind33
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JohnDwaynsen: I feel that preorder also has the potential to split the experience of preorder and non preorder players if it's more than a generic colored weapon for example.
Off the top of my head, the preorder bonus for Age of Wonders 3 was a single map. It's much more useful than a coloured weapon or other cosmetic change; it's actually something you can play. At the same time, it's just a single map that doesn't influence the main campaign. Granted that I'd rather have that map than not have it (especially if someone is a completionist), but it's hardly something that would cause a non-preorder player to have a much worse experience than a pre-order player; there are many other single maps available.

Just an example that pre-order mods aren't divided into "useless" hey-this-doesn't-really-add-anything-to-my-game mods and "essential" man,-I'm-getting-a-worse-experience-from-this-game-than-the-dude-who-preordered mods.

That aside, I agree that players shouldn't be locked out of DLCs just because they didn't pre-order. Just make the mode available on sale after game's release. (I do want that Age of Wanders 3 map, but there is no way of getting it now).
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richlind33: You fail to take into consideration that preorder DLC equals time and money that isn't invested in the base game, which is worse than useless -- it's detrimental to all end-users because you end up getting less, rather than more -- even if you preorder.
When did I do that? I agree and I'd personally rather developers invest more in the base game that's available for everybody.

You seriously don't read what the other person is writing and just make up stuff that you think they're writing as you go along. You do that whenever you post on any threads here. You missed the forest, the trees and a the teeny-tiny saplings, but having your head up your ass will do that to you. Poor guy.

EDIT: Well, let's see to what argument that I never made you'll reply this time.

Arguing with you is something like:

A: If you start at a point keep moving forward, you'll eventually arrive at back where you started, thus proving the earth is spherical.
B: That's doesn't really follow. It could mean the earth is a torus. I can think of tons of geometrical shapes with this property.
richlind: A much better question IMO is why do we still have a Flat Earth Society today.
B: What has that got to do with...
richlind: You can see the earth's curvature by observing ships on the horizon. How can you not notice that?
B: I was merely pointing out...
richlind: Galileo was tried by the Inquisition for supporting heliocentrism. But you still claim it's the sun that rotates around the earth.
B: ...
Post edited May 04, 2017 by ZFR
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richlind33: There's a point you neglect to address, and it's the most important one of all: what happens to societies that cater to the lowest common denominator?
They get pre-order exclusives.
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richlind33: There's a point you neglect to address, and it's the most important one of all: what happens to societies that cater to the lowest common denominator?
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misteryo: They get pre-order exclusives.
Mofos better throw in a happy meal or I'm goin postal.
What kind of boycott are we talking about?
- A personal boycott? Nothing wrong with that. Individuals acting on what they find wrong or right.
- Inciting herd behaviour? Well, that's the same thing (a lot of) publishers do to maximise sales/profit. Don't complain if it bites you in the ass.

As I see it; here's one person expressing his disgust on a GOG forum. This won't influence the people behind GOG one bit, and don't see how it would influence the behaviour of "the many" if they didn't agree already.
Post edited May 04, 2017 by teceem
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richlind33: You fail to take into consideration that preorder DLC equals time and money that isn't invested in the base game, which is worse than useless -- it's detrimental to all end-users because you end up getting less, rather than more -- even if you preorder.
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ZFR: When did I do that? I agree and I'd personally rather developers invest more in the base game that's available for everybody.

You seriously don't read what the other person is writing and just make up stuff that you think they're writing as you go along. You do that whenever you post on any threads here. You missed the forest, the trees and a the teeny-tiny saplings, but having your head up your ass will do that to you. Poor guy.

EDIT: Well, let's see to what argument that I never made you'll reply this time.

Arguing with you is something like:

A: If you start at a point keep moving forward, you'll eventually arrive at back where you started, thus proving the earth is spherical.
B: That's doesn't really follow. It could mean the earth is a torus. I can think of tons of geometrical shapes with this property.
richlind: A much better question IMO is why do we still have a Flat Earth Society today.
B: What has that got to do with...
richlind: You can see the earth's curvature by observing ships on the horizon. How can you not notice that?
B: I was merely pointing out...
richlind: Galileo was tried by the Inquisition for supporting heliocentrism. But you still claim it's the sun that rotates around the earth.
B: ...
Someone elst noticed that about the poster in question?

In another thread today, In which the old,old, Linux vs Windows debate came up, he made a post that basically was " I am a person who uses Linux;therefore I am so much more intelligent then the rest of you peons!"...
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dudalb: Someone elst noticed that about the poster in question?

In another thread today, In which the old,old, Linux vs Windows debate came up, he made a post that basically was " I am a person who uses Linux;therefore I am so much more intelligent then the rest of you peons!"...
I run win7, not linux. Yet. But soon. Because 7 is as far as I go with the abusive shits at MS.

BTW, do you have an inferiority complex? o.O
Post edited May 05, 2017 by richlind33
nvm
Post edited May 05, 2017 by Breja