Yes, they wanted to reinstate drahme + debt cut, the other option was a big debt cut and staying in EU monetary zone. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11513341/Greece-draws-up-drachma-plans-prepares-to-miss-IMF-payment.html

Edit: They never talked about leaving EU itself but the eurozone. I should have been more specific.

What they say and what they want to do are two different things when it comes to politics (not limited to this domain). For example everything Merkel says it's about helping EU, but in reality it's all about German economy.

Come on. That was a mere threat to try to get negotiation power with other EU countries/ECB/IMF. Greece has been doing that all along, making empty threats and demands to its creditors (in reality nowadays mostly other EU countries).

Greek government (neither Syriza nor any Euro Greek government before them) never really wanted to exit the eurozone because then they'd have to take care of their own mess, instead of other euro countries handing them money (as "loans" which everyone knows Greece can't and will not pay back to other EU countries, ever).

Against! They had the referendum, the terms were all agreed there and then - not again for another generation. Referendums should be final regardless of whether you like the result or not, simply because otherwise the losing side will just keep on calling for a rematch, and given the disruption these 2 we've had have caused, that would just become ridiculous very soon.

It depends on the legal framework. GB had article 50 as a guaranteed right. So they could even have asked the people 10 times in different years, then take the average and trigger the article or not. They could ask anytime again. Indeed, in Switzerland they often vote multiple times on the same stuff when time goes by, because the people decide themselves if they want to have a referendum about anything.

For Scotland they don't have a guaranteed right to be independent. They live on the goodwill of Westminster. It's not for us to decide whether they'll get it.

What if in polls there would be a majority for independence now in Scotland? The guy who decides that they can vote then effectively would decide if they could go. So if you afraid of them going, better not giving them the chance to vote on it.

I'm not afraid of them going, I don't care if they stay or not (it would be a bad idea for them, as with the oil prices so low they'd be near bankrupt). I've just had enough of referendums (at least significant ones), as I think has most of the UK. All the uncertainty has been very destructive, not to mention the subjects themselves being socially divisive. One side has to win, so lets just leave it at that.

Gibraltar, the very little peninsula with a rock at the southern end of the iberian peninsula, gets much attention since some days. I guess, the attention will fade soon but in the radio this morning the EU liason officer of Gibraltar was quoted saying, that Gibraltarians (is this the right word?) are "proud British Europeans". That's remarkable because given the recent events one would assume that you cannot be both, that have to decide what you are, and even being proud of being more than one thing at the same time... interesting.

you can be European without being in EU.....

That's true in general but maybe not in this context. As I understood it this guy was specifically talking about the EU. I guess he meant that Gibraltarians are proud to be British and at the same time proud to be part of the EU and see themselves as both.

Gibraltar voted for Remain with like 96% iirc. The above statement is totally expected imo.
Did you expect the Matrix to re-calibrate itself and turn the opinion of every British citizen who actually likes to be British _and_ likes the EU as well ?

or maybe not over-analyse it? maybe he is just proud of being British and European?


(as would be the case also with for example the Icelandic, the Norwegain or the Swiss....)

Maybe, although I don't believe it for even a second because I got the impression that's not what he wanted to say given the context and that he was talking about the EU.

Who knows in the end? Everything is so.... relative. An X could also be a U from a certain angle.

The Prime Minister just called general election for the 8th of June.

Great, 2 months of misinformation and bickering. As much as I'd like to think labour would rise about pedalling fear and half truths, I think this is going to be just as bad as the run up to Brexit (at least it will be quicker)

Lets just hope all those that couldn't bothered to vote during the referendum will vote this time.

Nothing will make any real difference. May will win because there is no real opersition, we can only hope for a super embarrassing leak that destroys Boris's career for good.