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halldojo:
Same building, different floors.
They work independently though.
Post edited May 27, 2017 by vanchann
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halldojo:
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vanchann: Same building, different floors.
They work independently though.
I seriously doubt there is no information flow between them.
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blotunga: As for those threatening to switch to Steam, go ahead, make GabeN richer and help him establish his monopoly on PC gaming.
Here's the thing: despite all its shenanigans, GOG is still the best DRM free store right now AFAIK. However, they're going downhill fast, and they obviously don't care much about what the old audience thinks about it. At that point, you have two choices: either keep supporting them and send the message that they don't have to care about you even if they mess things up because you'll keep giving them money no matter what they do, or stop supporting them and take your business elsewhere while hoping that will wake them up and correct their course so you can come back to them once they do. I'm honestly torn there.
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blotunga: As for those threatening to switch to Steam, go ahead, make GabeN richer and help him establish his monopoly on PC gaming.
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P1na: Here's the thing: despite all its shenanigans, GOG is still the best DRM free store right now AFAIK. However, they're going downhill fast, and they obviously don't care much about what the old audience thinks about it. At that point, you have two choices: either keep supporting them and send the message that they don't have to care about you even if they mess things up because you'll keep giving them money no matter what they do, or stop supporting them and take your business elsewhere while hoping that will wake them up and correct their course so you can come back to them once they do. I'm honestly torn there.
CDP won't care about a few opinions, but they are looking at the numbers. Without noticeable profit crashes after such changes they won't even notice.
Unfortunately their changes to the worse always go along with the release of the latest profitable game made by CDPR which probably more than just evens the numbers out...

You've probably seen those DRM-defending posts made by accounts post 2016 in the last months, that's the audience they want so we old customers (who have spent thousands of $ here) can just hope that more of us say "NO" with their wallets and keyboards alike and that the new ones immediately go back to Steam after their Witcher fill since they have a better DRMed experience with way more games than GOG will ever have, then someone high up would notice.

CDP is turning GOG into a CDPR store and doesn't care about DRM-free at all, so they'd need to see loss in revenue somehow before something changes back to the better.

Personally, I rather buy nothing than anything from Steam though.
Post edited May 27, 2017 by Klumpen0815
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P1na: Here's the thing: despite all its shenanigans, GOG is still the best DRM free store right now AFAIK. However, they're going downhill fast, and they obviously don't care much about what the old audience thinks about it. At that point, you have two choices: either keep supporting them and send the message that they don't have to care about you even if they mess things up because you'll keep giving them money no matter what they do, or stop supporting them and take your business elsewhere while hoping that will wake them up and correct their course so you can come back to them once they do. I'm honestly torn there.
I don't think they have a choice about some of the changes. They need more users to attract more publishers/games, while keeping their loyal fans such as ourselves happy. So they promote Galaxy for them, while still leaving us with what we want, namely DRM free single player. I can live with that, and they said it countless times that Galaxy will stay optional, however I have to admit it's convenient to use and I actually do use it for some time now.
I have an odd feeling for some reason that future games that are made by cd projekt are gonna me tied to the Galaxy client or from some other devs that want to put games here. Just that feeling.. I hope I am totally shit faced wrong on it though.
Probably like "The Witcher Adventure Game", it'll require galaxy only for multiplayer, while singleplayer will work standalone. We don't even know what kind of multiplayer will be on CP2077 though...
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TheUbik: Probably like "The Witcher Adventure Game", it'll require galaxy only for multiplayer, while singleplayer will work standalone. We don't even know what kind of multiplayer will be on CP2077 though...
I bet my cards on witcher 3 style 3rd person gameplay in a cyber punk world with jump in and out co op partner for doing missions and such.
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blotunga: I don't think they have a choice about some of the changes. They need more users to attract more publishers/games, while keeping their loyal fans such as ourselves happy. So they promote Galaxy for them, while still leaving us with what we want, namely DRM free single player. I can live with that, and they said it countless times that Galaxy will stay optional, however I have to admit it's convenient to use and I actually do use it for some time now.
While I agree they have little choice in some of the changes, I also believe they did have a choice in many others and they gleefully jumped on the crappy options. The recent kerfafle with galaxy on the offline installers is a good example. A matter not helped by their godawful communication efforts.

2-3 years ago I would have given GOG the benefit of the doubt and believed they would try their best to do the right thing in the end. I actually did, when it came to things like region locks and pricing. But now, I'm very disappointed in them and I see them go on a downhill spiral. As we say back home, they're going backwards, downhill and without brakes. And if we don't try to put the brakes, they'll become something completely pointless to us.

I said this a long time ago, but new games coming to GOG is a great thing because of the way GOG operates. If GOG needs to operate in a different way in order to have the games here, there's no point to having them here in the first place.

Oh, and regarding Galaxy, I don't use it myself but I probably would if the cloud saves were an actual thing. However, that's an extra; and they seem to push it hard to have that replace what I really care about. Which worries me a lot.
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P1na: communication efforts.
I really don't think that word applies :D
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halldojo: It is simple, gog has been screwing up big time, the way they are pushing the galaxy client pretty much indicates it will not be completely optional for long, that is what people are worrying about.
And how did you see that in future, that you so sure about it? You have time travel machine? Can I borrow it not for long? :)

If serious: right now Galaxy is completely optional. It required on for multiplayer in some games like Dying Light. GOG stated that they will make classic installers WITHOUT Galaxy. Where is the problem??? Multiplayer requirement is by developers, not GOG team. And you will still have your classic installers without Galaxy.
will definitely not buy it if it is DRM / requires Galaxy - I hope this doesn't happen, I'm looking forward to it
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Andrey82: And you will still have your classic installers without Galaxy.
Yes, only because for once the community came together for a Galaxy Demolition Night. The result is a solution obviously very much against GOGs plans, and one so impractical that it can still easily lead to the classic installers becoming outdated and abandoned.

Also, we still don't have notifications without Galaxy, because apparently basic functionality of the site is also optional, as in it's only an option for those who follow the client towards GOG's bright future.

The Galaxy-centric future is all around us. It's clearly laid out in GOG's official, publicly made plans, and in every action they take. In fact, keeping it optional would be highly inconsistant with their current MO.
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halldojo: It is simple, gog has been screwing up big time, the way they are pushing the galaxy client pretty much indicates it will not be completely optional for long, that is what people are worrying about.
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Andrey82: And how did you see that in future, that you so sure about it? You have time travel machine? Can I borrow it not for long? :)

If serious: right now Galaxy is completely optional. It required on for multiplayer in some games like Dying Light. GOG stated that they will make classic installers WITHOUT Galaxy. Where is the problem??? Multiplayer requirement is by developers, not GOG team. And you will still have your classic installers without Galaxy.
As I said it "indicates" that does not mean it is a sure thing, also I mentioned this is what people are afraid of. Not to long ago most multiplayer games did not need the galaxy client, today most multiplayer games require galaxy, as you can see the trend is pushing towards it not being as optional as they say it is.
In my case must have Galaxy = end of using GoG. Many galaxy features are social oriented. And I play games primary for my own entertain not for sharing statistics with others.