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ET3D: Hey, I sometimes see movies 15 minutes here and there. It's not optimal but still enjoyable.
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drealmer7: That is blasphemous in my book. It's not just not optimal, you are doing a disservice to yourself and the movie. You are missing/destroying a number of important elements (flow/rhythm, artistic integrity, atmosphere.) If you don't have time to watch a movie, don't watch it.
I too am one who doesn't watch movies in one setting even if it's blasphemous to you. Cinema's as an exception, where you're forced to watch a movie in one setting plus there isn't any stimuli distracting you, I don't have enough concentration or mental quiet to watch a movie in it's completeness in one time. In your perception, I shouldn't watch movies at all than, but if I would skip things just because I can only do them sub-optimal due to my handicap, I wouldn't do anything at all. Due to my mental illness, my whole life is sub-optimal. It just isn't any other way, because of what I am.
this happens to me. What it then takes, is me just going Leeroy and just storming in, aware i'm going to fail a few times. in the first few round endless space had me like waitwhat, resulting in me not progressing fast enough and being invaded. second game i brought the galaxy to its knees.
Every real-time strategy game ever for me too.
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drealmer7: That is blasphemous in my book.
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ET3D: I'm sorry I offended your beliefs. I maintain that experiencing something in an imperfect way is a lot better than not experiencing it at all.
My beliefs aren't offended. You seem to misunderstand. My position is that the two different ways of doing it that you say are two completely different experiences. The one is not simply a watered down version of the other as you seem to think. It's not a belief, it's a position of thought held with reasons backed up by experience and evidence, and I was trying to express those to you so you could understand my position, then I'd like you to think about that position and be honest with yourself about what you're doing when breaking up a movie.
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drealmer7: That is blasphemous in my book. It's not just not optimal, you are doing a disservice to yourself and the movie. You are missing/destroying a number of important elements (flow/rhythm, artistic integrity, atmosphere.) If you don't have time to watch a movie, don't watch it.
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DubConqueror: I too am one who doesn't watch movies in one setting even if it's blasphemous to you. Cinema's as an exception, where you're forced to watch a movie in one setting plus there isn't any stimuli distracting you, I don't have enough concentration or mental quiet to watch a movie in it's completeness in one time. In your perception, I shouldn't watch movies at all than, but if I would skip things just because I can only do them sub-optimal due to my handicap, I wouldn't do anything at all. Due to my mental illness, my whole life is sub-optimal. It just isn't any other way, because of what I am.
You shouldn't be taking my position as a personal judgement of your being. Especially when you have a handicap - you should realize that I don't know you or your situation and I wasn't addressing you or your situation. Your reason for not being able to do something is not that other person's. In fact, I said "if you don't have the time, don't watch." This doesn't even apply to you, as it's not a matter of you not having the time, it's a matter of you, regardless of having the time, don't have the ability to do it. I'm not judging you for your inability to do something, so relax.
Post edited February 16, 2015 by drealmer7
Any strategy games - perhaps more "overwhelmed" than "intimidated".

Any online games as my only experience is Red Dead Redemption and I received more abuse for apparently no reason that I've ever received.
Bioshock 1+2. You cannot go happy go lucky like in a generic shooter. It is not a full RPG either, so forget the uber, foolproof build, too. Trigger happy and generally happy player, does not exist, because ammo is limited, enemies hard and tactical, hell, even splashers become more difficult later on...

I always wanted to go through 1 and 2. But i was SEVERELY and CRITICALLY intimidated. Because they were on Steam. Because the devs refused to fix bugs and correct errors. Because they promised DLCs and later on denied them for pc users (only console ones). And because they are hard and need much planning. I like shooters, i like RPGs, and i do exceptionally well, usually, in either. Combine them, though, and i am lost. That is why i never played through System Shock 2, their spiritual successor, and shame on me.
Baldur's Gate. I'm a huge Bioware fan and I definitely want to play these games some day, but everytime I start the game I just feel intimidated by the mechanics because I'm not used to old school D&D games. I know I can learn but I keep putting it off. :)
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FearfulSymmetry: Baldur's Gate. I'm a huge Bioware fan and I definitely want to play these games some day, but everytime I start the game I just feel intimidated by the mechanics because I'm not used to old school D&D games. I know I can learn but I keep putting it off. :)
I was like you., but I managed to beat Baldur's Gate 1 all you have to know is that, "Less is More" Reading is necessary. And speaking as a Fighter character my Fighter got so powerful in the end of the final boss that he beat him by himself. All he needed is alot of buffs like increase damage, temporary invincibility, etc. Potions in this game ARE USEFUL.

Ironically I have not beaten Baldur's Gate 2. And everyone says that game improves on all the gameplay issues of the first.

But what intimidates me about Baldur's Gate 2 is the constances of people giving me quests out of random even when I am not approaching them.

Also there is this mansion where you needed magic to finish off trolls or else they will come back (and there are moments you have no mage in your party. Yeah its things like that why BG 2 can seem intimidating.
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Bioshock 1+2. You cannot go happy go lucky like in a generic shooter. It is not a full RPG either, so forget the uber, foolproof build, too. Trigger happy and generally happy player, does not exist, because ammo is limited, enemies hard and tactical, hell, even splashers become more difficult later on...

I always wanted to go through 1 and 2. But i was SEVERELY and CRITICALLY intimidated. Because they were on Steam. Because the devs refused to fix bugs and correct errors. Because they promised DLCs and later on denied them for pc users (only console ones). And because they are hard and need much planning. I like shooters, i like RPGs, and i do exceptionally well, usually, in either. Combine them, though, and i am lost. That is why i never played through System Shock 2, their spiritual successor, and shame on me.
Believe me, if you play Bioshock games on easy you can not loose and do not have to worry about ammo etc at all.
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drealmer7: The forums for the individual games can be quite useful too for this type of intimidation relief.
Truth is that it's probably forum posts by veterans of these games who wrote some in-depth stuff about the mechanics, about experiences with broken or experimental character builds etc. that really initimidated me. :P
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darthspudius: Believe me, if you play Bioshock games on easy you can not loose and do not have to worry about ammo etc at all.
Heck, the fact that you cannot lose in BioShock 1 (at least before they introduced the patch that allowed you to deactivate vita chambers) is one of the big issues that threw me off when I first played it. Why would I waste ammo if I can kill even big daddies with dozens of suicidal wrench attacks? :P Of course I wasn't aware at the time that the original System Shock already did the exact same thing. :P
Post edited February 16, 2015 by F4LL0UT
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Leroux: I started playing it without reading the manual and it went fine for a while, but then I got more and more frustrated by the seeming arbitrariness of spellcating success and such. It's just no fun in scenarios where you can't afford a single misstep if you lose one or more rounds just because the spell you cast failed and you don't know why.
Oh, yeah, the RNG in Blackguards can be a bitch. Sometimes you get several fails/misses in a row, at 75% success rate or more. Had that problem with Shadowrun, too. I don't know if it's just bad luck, or if there's really something off about it, but you just gotta deal with it.

In Blackguards, the easiest way to improve success rate for spells is just to level up those specific spells you like to use often. Unlocking higher levels of the spell also makes lower level versions more likely to succeed. I also found that Hunters/Archers are arguably the best class in the game, since ranged combat is so important and Mages are too dependent on their mana supply.

Also, I don't know how far you played, but I found the first two thirds or so of the game to be best. Later on combat gets a bit more repetitive, but the earlier fights are generally very interesting and well designed. Nice game overall, just has a few rough edges and problems here and there.
Post edited February 16, 2015 by CharlesGrey
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FearfulSymmetry: Baldur's Gate. I'm a huge Bioware fan and I definitely want to play these games some day, but everytime I start the game I just feel intimidated by the mechanics because I'm not used to old school D&D games. I know I can learn but I keep putting it off. :)
It is easier than it seems, trust me! :)
Judging by your posts about your tastes in gaming I'm pretty sure you would really like it, so it would be a pity to not play it!
A new player just needs to remember that spells must be learned from scrolls and need sleep to be recharghed, and lower scores on thac0 (hit chance) and armour are better than higher ones.
Figuring out the rest will come natural. I was a total noob and I had no difficulties... if I made it, it means that anyone can! XD

By the way, in case you decided to play it you could also try the "BG1/PS:T Max HP on Level Up".
It allows you to avoid the annoying rolls to get a decent HP boost when leveling up, and it also gives you a 100% chance to learn spells.
Every player would just keep reloading to get a good result anyway, we all know that! :P
StarCraft II - I suck at RTS games, and the little I've played, I've done fine, but it intimidates me.

Also, Dark Souls because people have endlessly talked about how hard it is.

A true intimidation I feel is towards Amnesia: The Dark Descent. After playing Penumbra a little bit, I'm scared shitless of all games that particular studio puts out.
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CharlesGrey: Oh, yeah, the RNG in Blackguards can be a bitch. Sometimes you get several fails/misses in a row, at 75% success rate or more. Had that problem with Shadowrun, too. I don't know if it's just bad luck, or if there's really something off about it, but you just gotta deal with it.
If that's a problem to you then never play Halfway, the aiming/rate/weapons on that game is broken and makes the game harder than it needs to be, i stopped playing because of some bugs (i presume it has been fixed by now) but i'm not in the mood to return to it because of that, you miss A LOT on that game.

And funny that some games mentioned here i intended to play them in the following months (Blackguards and Wargame EE) but i actually didn't know much about them. Oh well, let's see how i will fare when the time comes...
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Leucius: Also, Dark Souls because people have endlessly talked about how hard it is.
Dark Souls tends to be more cheap than hard. It's worth avoiding.