Thought everyone could do with some light entertainment, so: (Content note: above is sfw YT clip with sound, and posted purely for entertainment value)

BS. Partisan you say? Like the party of people who believe in freedom and equality of opportunity, sure why not. Are you saying no other persons believe like you that could be called a party belief, that you prescribe to? You alone hold these opinions and no one else in the world believes the same?

What is wrong?

You made it political by bringing in and insisting on words who very definitions are political, socialism and libertarianism. Not only do you use these words, they do most of the heavy lifting in your sentiments Scientiae, with you providing no proper explanation of your own meanings.

It's disgusting how you paint me to be some mindless political cog and you some wise philosopher divorced from all the baggage of the vague words you choose to use.

Also your insult is just ad-hominem shit. While anyone can look up what "ad-hominem" means, for those who don't bother, it means to argue by insulting others. A logic fallacy. Like if my words are "boring screeds of blithering nonsense" then they aren't worth listening to, and wrong and thus you "win", you being the person who is the grand arbiter of such things.

That's like saying democracy is the ideal used to excuse the most heinous governments ever created. Hitler was elected into power. North Koreas official/self given name is "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" So that must mean democracy is terrible and we should all be ruled by kings.[/sarcasm]

False, capitalism is the stealing of property etc from those who created it. Like, the opposite of what you said.
You think a hired chief owns the meals they create in a restaurant? You think a assembly line worker owns even the smallest part of the things they spend all day creating? A programmer may own none of the code they themselves write and would actually have to rent or buy the code from their employer that they themselves wrote.

You are half right. Capitalism is a system of owning everyone elses stuff and concentrating power to informal rulers. That is the opposite of socialism.

To answer your question Locke, the forces of capitalism compel such individuals to give up their properties and freedoms or face extinction. If only Scientiae had read John Lockes work and recognized the value of people owning their own person, works, and possessions.

rofl
so easy to see you've just read about ad-hominem logic fallacy some days ago and always bring up this card and using it falsely :D

Specific users aside, I often find that people(generally speaking) who are quick to point out logical fallacies(real or imagined) or use "gotchas" a lot in a debate/conversation more often than not have a very weak(or sometimes even wrong) position on a topic.

yep
like pointing out these logic fallacies are actually a logic fallacy in itself

From wikipedia:

"Argument from fallacy is the formal fallacy of analyzing an argument and inferring that, since it contains a fallacy, its conclusion must be false. It is also called argument to logic (argumentum ad logicam), the fallacy fallacy, the fallacist's fallacy, and the bad reasons fallacy."

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Btw: I've actually seen several people on the net exhibit this fallacy.

so there is such a thing , nice thx for the info

Mind to demonstrate it, please?

All BS. Ad-hominem was used to argue against me and now you two clowns are dissing that correct assessment. An assessment that was completely separate from my argument.
I take it this nonsense is all you two GamezRanker & Orkhepaj have to say.

just read myconv perfect example :P

Not to mention Red Herrings.

It's sad how much irony is lost on you Orkhepaj.

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This post you just made is actually a large part ad hominem.

Also the old saying works best here: “Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.”

Probably a waste of time but to briefly point out the irony for those who aren't Ork or Gamez and miss it.

I made a well reasoned post discussing how you can't make broad generalizations using words like "liberal" or "socialist" in part because their very definition varies according to political alignment (and even in that context is ill defined and broad) I also made a few other points on that topic I will not attempt to recreate here.
I also pointed out that Scientiae's argument that my argument was no good because it was gibberish, was fallacious.

Then Ork and Gamez say my argument that "liberal" and "socialists" have ill defined meanings etc. (all my arguments apparently as none of them were addressed) is invalid because I pointed out Scientiaes fallacious argument that my words were gibberish etc (inset what ever insults Scientiae used to dismiss my words) so should not be considered. Thus Ork and Gamez accuse me of "Argument from fallacy" while making a false "Argument from fallacy". That is some next level irony and hypocrisy there.

So back to the topic at hand:

I try to live my life as best I can, according to what I feel is moral(this is usually a mix of personal stances and beliefs & the ones held by society at large).

As such, I tend to promote good/"good" rather than try to "fight evil".
(as to me, promoting good is better to do and more constructive use of one's time as well)