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LiefLayer: 2. If the software is really old and not supported just download it, setup the emulator if necessary and play (you only need 1 game, you cannot play two games at the same time).
Same logic as doing Netflix, you can only watch one show at a time so why do more...

That works until the internet goes down. Or they remove the series because licensing and Disney wants to shove it on their own Disney+ service so now you have to pay for another service.

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LiefLayer: 4. No reason to be paranoid... the ISP here never act against 1 customer and even when they act you can usually skip the problem just by changing DNS
Ummmm... Well maybe you're in luck with your ISP, but i've gotten unsavory emails before, and threats of 'pay $200 for XYZ before we sue you' messages.

And changing the DNS (Domain Name Service) only changes who you ping to convert a name like GoG.com to an IP address 12.34.56.78 and the like. It doesn't stop the ISP from scanning your traffic and then flagging something as suspicious or a torrent and then you getting threatening emails and blackmail.

And with how politics are i wouldn't be surprised if suddenly people are getting kicked offline for visiting a news source the political parties don't like, afterall if they are willing to shut your bank account down for protesting, and if you want to purchase firearms, what's to stop you from being kicked off for going to fox news?

No, i think VPN's and privacy will become more important in the near future. Be much better if we didn't have to.

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LiefLayer: it's been a long time since I actually downloaded a pirate version of anything... No reason to do that when you got like 350+ games to play only on gog.
5. My connection is 24€ each month without any GB limitation (1000 mb speed). I don't need to pay attention to the amount of GB that I consume.
I've got over 800 games here on GoG, and then i have probably another 200 in console games, PS1/PS2/Gamecube and the like. Maybe logically it's enough, but i doubt it.

As for Internet, there's some providers that have a set GB per month, and others it's a set speed. You're lucky if you have unlimited speed and how much you can send/receive.
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rtcvb32: Same logic as doing Netflix, you can only watch one show at a time so why do more...
that's why I don't have netflix.

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rtcvb32: Ummmm... Well maybe you're in luck with your ISP, but i've gotten unsavory emails before, and threats of 'pay $200 for XYZ before we sue you' messages.
etc...
wow I thought the US was a little freer country. Frankly, here in Italy I have never heard of such a thing. I'm not even sure it's legal for the ISP to track traffic without being asked by the authorities (and they never ask unless you distribute copyrighted material for a profit).

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rtcvb32: As for Internet, there's some providers that have a set GB per month, and others it's a set speed. You're lucky if you have unlimited speed and how much you can send/receive.
Again I thought that in the US the internet connection situation was more advanced than here in Italy, on the contrary it seems that your situation is really bad.
Here only mobile connections are limited in number of GB and speed. No physical fiber connection limits the number of GB and connection speed (which is always the maximum supported by the line... in a mountain village it may be that only ADSL arrives (still without GB limit), but if optical fiber arrives it goes to a minimum of 1 Gbit).

PS. On the issue of firearms, frankly they are prohibited here (unless you have a special permit with which at most you can have them at home, not take them out) and personally speaking I feel safer. Never understood why you are so obsessed with firearms, they are very dangerous and it is the main reason why I never went to the US (I don't want to be killed). I would understand if you were a dictatorship or in a war like Ukraine, but in a peaceful democracy there should be no need to have them. If something happens the police should intervene.
Post edited September 24, 2023 by LiefLayer
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rtcvb32: Ummmm... Well maybe you're in luck with your ISP, but i've gotten unsavory emails before, and threats of 'pay $200 for XYZ before we sue you' messages.
etc...
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LiefLayer: wow I thought the US was a little freer country. Frankly, here in Italy I have never heard of such a thing. I'm not even sure it's legal for the ISP to track traffic without being asked by the authorities (and they never ask unless you distribute copyrighted material for a profit).
If you look at the current state of politics and surveillance, it's worse than Nazi Germany.

And it's probably a conglomeration of the ISP, big tech and publishers to monitor what you're doing. In many cases the push to get information of who is using torrent XYZ so they can sue all the customers, gets blocked. But that isn't always the case. When i'd gotten a threatening email, it was like 18 months after the fact.

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rtcvb32: As for Internet, there's some providers that have a set GB per month, and others it's a set speed. You're lucky if you have unlimited speed and how much you can send/receive.
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LiefLayer: Again I thought that in the US the internet connection situation was more advanced than here in Italy, on the contrary it seems that your situation is really bad.
Technical ability of the internet is not the same as prices. I remember being pushed for $65+ a month (Naturally after you get the intro plan for $25...) for the lowest tier internet (at the time, 6Mbit) . Now if you want to pay, you can certainly have very high internet speeds, though some are reserved for businesses only, like 100MBit connections. The tech putting my internet in said the actual speeds (if not throttled) were insanely high. But again not paying that amount.

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LiefLayer: Here only mobile connections are limited in number of GB and speed. No physical fiber connection limits the number of GB and connection speed (which is always the maximum supported by the line... in a mountain village it may be that only ADSL arrives (still without GB limit), but if optical fiber arrives it goes to a minimum of 1 Gbit).
I'd say you're lucky. Though i heard Mobile data was unlimited too.... until they were hitting the bandwidth limit, then they started selling 10Gb packages for like $30 for mobile.

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LiefLayer: PS. On the issue of firearms, frankly they are prohibited here (unless you have a special permit with which at most you can have them at home, not take them out) and personally speaking I feel safer. Never understood why you are so obsessed with firearms,
First, there's a lot of open space and wild animals. Wolves, elk, coyotes, even some bears. In town i've seen the deer watching us pass by and waiting for an opening before crossing the street. And if you want to go really small time, there's invasive species of squirrels that are considered pests (BB/pellet rifles)

Second, being armed means the government can't just roll in and do whatever they want. Venezuela were convinced to give up their guns. Then 8 months later they were running people over with armored vehicles.

Third, personal defense. In some cities it's insane the crime. But then there's a couple cities where owning a handgun is mandatory, 1 per household at least, and the crime rate is 1/10th the national average. "An armed society is a polite society".

Fourth, sometimes you just want to shoot targets. Clay pigeons, paper targets, cans of old tomatoes, etc. It can be quite fun.

Fifth. Being armed actually prevents crime, a study had shown that the presence or threat of a gun (not drawn or anything) deterred something like 8x the number of crimes as guns in the hands of criminals cause. So just having something on your back or hip can keep you out of trouble.

Just looking at the numbers, as many people should be armed in public as possible; As there tends to be far more good/law abiding people than criminals.

And getting invaded.... “You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.” - Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto
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polysquirrel: They claim to include something like 1000000 titles.
There is only one important question:
DO THESE GAMES HAVE WORKING ACHIEVEMENTS???
If not, it's not worth buying.
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rtcvb32: When i'd gotten a threatening email, it was like 18 months after the fact.
Still no way that is legal here. No ISP can monitor your connection if not asked by the police... and they don't bother if you don't actually sell and make profit from copyrighted material (and they only do it if they actually care, for example for italian movies... they never did it for games).


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rtcvb32: Technical ability of the internet is not the same as prices. I remember being pushed for $65+ a month (Naturally after you get the intro plan for $25...) for the lowest tier internet (at the time, 6Mbit) . Now if you want to pay, you can certainly have very high internet speeds, though some are reserved for businesses only, like 100MBit connections. The tech putting my internet in said the actual speeds (if not throttled) were insanely high. But again not paying that amount.
Like I said here the fiber/adsl connection is always without limitation on the GB side, and the only limitation for speed is the technical side. Also some offer can lock your price forever in the contract (mine is locked at 24€, I can decide to change contract but they cannot charge me more than 24 if I decide to stay). Some people where lucky to get it at 16€, I got my home only last year so I had to do the new contract for 24€. They only way I'm paying more is if I move or they fail and I have to change ISP.

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rtcvb32: Though i heard Mobile data was unlimited too.... until they were hitting the bandwidth limit, then they started selling 10Gb packages for like $30 for mobile.
here mobile data was always limited, still the reason for that is technical (there is no technical reason to limit fiber line).

About the firearms I still do not understand and many of the arguments you brought up are the ones I always hear only from Americans (they seem like copy paste like some sort of conspiracy theory)...
For the animals part I can understand but here too there are hunters and the only thing they bring is a rifle on hunting trips. I don't think machine guns are suitable for hunting but I don't see americans using only rifle for hunting at all.
Furthermore, hunters must obtain a license, which means that if some crazy person shows up (perhaps with a history of violence behind him/her) he/she is denied a gun license and cannot easily obtain a rifle.

About the theory that a government takes away weapons to establish a dictatorship is contradicted by the facts. It is full of democracies without guns, some like Australia have eliminated them relatively recently and I don't see them having a dictatorship. Here in Italy too, no guns no dictatorship.
It can happen? Anything can happen and when it happens I'm sure the weapons will be found.

On personal defense, frankly it seems to me that you are at war with your neighbors. My neighbors are good people as are most of the people who go to work every morning, it's not like I'm surrounded by criminals. If it were really necessary, there are always everyday objects such as kitchen knives, baseball bats, etc. And in any case in a democracy it should be the police who protect the citizens, the citizens can provide in an emergency but they must not have the duty to protect themselves even we were in the Middle Ages.
Furthermore, from the description you give it seems to me that the society so full of weapons has not reduced crimes. Here in Italy I have never witnessed a violent scene, of course you see it on the news, but it's not like it's an everyday thing.
And speaking of TG, it's chock-full of news on the shootings that always happen in America. And no one here has any doubts "they are crazy to have all those weapons". And even if we want to pretend that they are for self-defense, it doesn't explain all those who collect them, who take photos with children holding machine guns, who do everything to show that they have a lot of weapons. But the most inexplicable thing is why not at least prevent ex-convicts and other categories of dangerous people from being able to buy them without controls by issuing a licence.

I will not even say shooting is not fun, that's personal preference... you can do it in a target shooting (we got them here too...).

The country in the world with the fewest firearms, Japan, is also the one with the least crimes. And frankly I don't know what data you have to say something stupid like "Being armed actually prevents crime", that's not true at all and the data says exactly the opposite (maybe you got it from you NRA... if I recall what's your firearms lobby is called).

Finally we got a recent event to debunk your "You cannot invade "armed country"" Ukraine was recently invaded and was full of weapons (rightly, they had already been threatened, in that case I would have armed myself too). It is not the presence/absence of weapons that determines whether your country/home is invaded or not, but rather the socio-economic-political situation.
In times of war/dictatorship, weapons are a necessity and I don't deny it.
In times of peace, however, weapons are just an additional danger for honest citizens, they are a danger both because if it is easy to have access to firearms it is also easy for the deranged (who do not always have a criminal network behind them capable of providing them with weapons anyway), and because it fuels the fear of one's neighbor (so anyone takes a weapon because his neighbors have them), and because they are dangerous objects and domestic accidents happen often.

Then everyone in their own country does what they like, I stay here where people don't have to be afraid to leave their homes.
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g2222: DO THESE GAMES HAVE WORKING ACHIEVEMENTS???
If not, it's not worth buying.
I personally prefer not to have achievements, so i see it as a plus. Last thing i need is a popup at an impractical moment saying 'You got 30p for XYZ achievement!' and getting in my way.

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LiefLayer: About the firearms I still do not understand and many of the arguments you brought up are the ones I always hear only from Americans (they seem like copy paste like some sort of conspiracy theory)..

For the animals part I can understand but here too there are hunters and the only thing they bring is a rifle on hunting trips. I don't think machine guns are suitable for hunting but I don't see americans using only rifle for hunting at all.
Furthermore, hunters must obtain a license, which means that if some crazy person shows up (perhaps with a history of violence behind him/her) he/she is denied a gun license and cannot easily obtain a rifle.
[Automatic] Machine guns have been banned from sale since the 80's.

If i understand it, licenses are to help monitor but manage how much of the wildlife is culled so you don't accidentally endanger species. Afterall when you remove the wolves and predators, you can't leave them unaccounted for, without of which they will multiply and soon starve themselves out.

I've also in my local area seen programs where the government effectively will rent out your land to grow wild for a while to a degree, which helps to feed these same animals and allow hunters on them. So it's a bit of give and take, though it's something like 30 cents an acre.

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LiefLayer: About the theory that a government takes away weapons to establish a dictatorship is contradicted by the facts. It is full of democracies without guns, some like Australia have eliminated them relatively recently and I don't see them having a dictatorship. Here in Italy too, no guns no dictatorship.
And yet they added concentration camps to Australia and kids who tried to run away were hunted down...

Other places not so sure, but i believe having a way to defend yourself is better than not.

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LiefLayer: On personal defense, frankly it seems to me that you are at war with your neighbors. My neighbors are good people as are most of the people who go to work every morning, it's not like I'm surrounded by criminals. If it were really necessary, there are always everyday objects such as kitchen knives, baseball bats, etc. And in any case in a democracy it should be the police who protect the citizens, the citizens can provide in an emergency but they must not have the duty to protect themselves even we were in the Middle Ages.
Guns are what's called the great equalizer. Men are larger and stronger than women and one on one (or in Europe video footage of one man thwarting 4 police women) knives and bats and whatnot just aren't going to cut it.

As for neighbors, depends who you are talking about. I don't huddle in my house worrying that i might get invaded. Firearms are just a tool, as with anything else.

Still, houses are broken into sometimes at night, moreso in the urban cities. And there's just sometimes dumb kids and teenagers. As mentioned before they are often a deterrent as much as a weapon.

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LiefLayer: Furthermore, from the description you give it seems to me that the society so full of weapons has not reduced crimes.
The largest amount of violence takes place in densely packed urban areas. Everywhere else it's rather quiet. As Tim Pool would say, Someone in New York City don't understand why someone in Wyoming would need a gun. And in a city (as mentioned before) which it's mandatory to own a gun, crime is 1/10th the national average.

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LiefLayer: Here in Italy I have never witnessed a violent scene, of course you see it on the news, but it's not like it's an everyday thing.
And speaking of TG, it's chock-full of news on the shootings that always happen in America. And no one here has any doubts "they are crazy to have all those weapons". And even if we want to pretend that they are for self-defense, it doesn't explain all those who collect them, who take photos with children holding machine guns, who do everything to show that they have a lot of weapons. But the most inexplicable thing is why not at least prevent ex-convicts and other categories of dangerous people from being able to buy them without controls by issuing a license.
Again you have to look at major urban areas, like Chicago where gun violence is the worst. Curiously it's nearly impossible to own a gun, so criminals who don't care about the laws acquire guns. So what does that add up to? Likely lawful citizens are disarmed and at the mercy of those armed.

Again it's why i'd advocate for everyone to be armed, then criminals who are armed will choose not to act indiscriminately.

As much as there's millions of guns, some people are collectors, some are hunters. I've a handful myself, and it's kinda refreshing after years without after the military. The USA is pushing more and more constitutional carry, half or more of the states have passed those in recent years. I don't doubt more and more in the next 10 years will continue to get to 3/4th of them.

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LiefLayer: I will not even say shooting is not fun, that's personal preference... you can do it in a target shooting (we got them here too...).

The country in the world with the fewest firearms, Japan, is also the one with the least crimes. And frankly I don't know what data you have to say something stupid like "Being armed actually prevents crime", that's not true at all and the data says exactly the opposite (maybe you got it from you NRA... if I recall what's your firearms lobby is called).
Japan is it's own culture. After pearl harbor and they were bombed, it was said some people would die of thirst rather than steal from a store, so much the stores put up signs to just take water if they needed it and not to worry about it.

Japan is a very proud people with ethics as a whole; and that is ingrained in a way that isn't present in many other countries. Japan is also very stressful, and many people have checked out, which adds to the declining birthrate.

While a good example of a country without much crime, i'd have to look to other places where crime is going up and they'd probably feel better having firearms rather than not, like Stockholm, London, France. Course if they like being invaded by Islam that's something else, but i doubt it will keep up much longer.

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LiefLayer: Finally we got a recent event to debunk your "You cannot invade "armed country"" Ukraine was recently invaded and was full of weapons (rightly, they had already been threatened, in that case I would have armed myself too). It is not the presence/absence of weapons that determines whether your country/home is invaded or not, but rather the socio-economic-political situation.
Maybe. Back in the 50's it was rather common to have shotguns mounted on the insides of cars and trucks, easy access, taking guns to school, gun/shooting clubs. Crime wasn't an issue, everyone was taught how to use guns safely and properly.

And being invaded or not, look back at history at Warsaw. That town was taken over, then with a hammer one invader was taken out, guns taken, then others, then the army was held off at range who had tanks for months, until they bombed the city to the ground because they couldn't take it back again as the people fought.

As fpr Ukraine and Russia... I think there's a lot more going on they aren't saying, on top of the Military Industrial Complex wanting to keep war going because they can make money off it. Best to let this border dispute play out and not cheer for either side. Though, it looks like Russia is going to win.

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LiefLayer: In times of war/dictatorship, weapons are a necessity and I don't deny it.
In times of peace, however, weapons are just an additional danger for honest citizens, they are a danger both because if it is easy to have access to firearms it is also easy for the deranged (who do not always have a criminal network behind them capable of providing them with weapons anyway), and because it fuels the fear of one's neighbor (so anyone takes a weapon because his neighbors have them), and because they are dangerous objects and domestic accidents happen often.

Then everyone in their own country does what they like, I stay here where people don't have to be afraid to leave their homes.
I think that the Electric Vehicles and self driving cars are more dangerous than guns, as well as highly impractical. Personally it feels like very soon EV's will be banned in a number of states.

No doubt there's mental illness all over the place, some worse than others, as well as criminals. But it seems certain areas breed and bring on more than others. And a big pattern of what brings those on. And no I'm not afraid to leave my house. But then again, I'm not in San Fransisco, or Chicago, or Denver or the other urban areas where I'd need to be.

Honestly I'd prefer if we didn't need weapons. But humans are a violent species, and if we don't vent our energies in good ways we use them in bad ways. I'd just wish the 'Elites' who think they know better for us, just left us alone and let society phase things out naturally rather than forcing it on us.
If you are able to compare gun violence levels between cities, theny you have a major problem with too many guns being around. Adding more to the pool won't solve the problem. What you need to to is to remove them. Also those who don't follow the law at some point will get problems to get new ones if there's no one to steal them from. Even the black market needs to get his supplies somewhere. First thing to do: Stop producing them.
Of course scared people want to arm themselves, but it's stupid. Have I ever read that a armed person stoped a crime without causing any more damage? Yes, I have. Once. Have I read that kids accidentaly shot their siblings or parents? Have I read that an angry man shot his neighbors cat? Or a angry man shooting his neighbor? Yes, I did, a lot more often than once. People tend to use offensive weapons in offensive ways, rather than defensive ones. More guns will not stop crime, more guns will create more criminals (and victims). They make it all too easy to cause serious damage.
You as a former soldier know how to handle it and when to use it. But the vaste majority of people - neigher criminals nor good citizens - don't.

You said one thing, that is utterlly wrong: Guns are not equilizers, they are multipliers. A equilization may or may not happen, when the smaller element has a gun and the other one hasn't. But only then. In all other cases either nothing changes or it gets even worse.

... Let's talk about games again, shall we?
Post edited September 25, 2023 by neumi5694
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rtcvb32: I think that the Electric Vehicles and self driving cars are more dangerous than guns, as well as highly impractical. Personally it feels like very soon EV's will be banned in a number of states.
neumi5694 already said part of what I wanted to say... I'll just say one more thing about this, you need a license to drive a car, not sure why you do not require a license for a gun.
and if it was for me I would ban cars from cities... outside a city/town cars are a necessity, but in city/town they are dangerous for pedestrians and they prevent the spread of alternative and economical means such as public transport, bicycles etc. Cars are also really expensive and they keep people poor. So I agree with you they are more dangerous than guns, but I would ban both, I'm not a car lover at all, at least where they don't belong (cars are great tools outside cities/towns if there is no train).