ZFR: ...

Sorry, I don't know what happened to me. I thought LYLO was MYLO and vice versa.

PookaMustard: Something eluded me until now. If a power role is to breadcrumb,

ZFR: Lift answered this very nicely in post 307. If we leave you alive, but end up mislynching another town, then "not being nightkilled would mean you're scum" is actually meaningless.

We'd by at MYLO after NK. If you're town, scum can NK someone else knowing you're likely as you said, be the D3 lynch. If you're scum, you can claim that you're town and scum are keeping you alive for the above reason. Regardless, there would be way too much confusion for us to extract anything meaningful.

There are four possibilities:

1. We lynch you, you're scum: hooray.
2. We lynch you, you're town: Not so cool. However a major point of confusion gets cleared up, we get some info confirmed about Lift (granted as trent said it's not extremely useful but still), and our loss is at this point no bigger than losing a vanilla townie; as Lift said unfortunately you lost your usefullness when you claimed.

3. We don't lynch you you're scum: we're screwed.
4. We don't lynch you, you're town: we don't lose a cop, but we're in deep crap anyway. You either get NKed and don't give us any additional info, or even worse if we mislynch another town then scum can have a field day by keeping you alive tomorrow.

See, no matter your faction, scenarios 3 and 4 where we don't lynch you lead to much worse situations than 1 and 2 where we do. So even thinking that you could be town, I'd still lynch you. But I'm thinking of that being likely less and less.

And yes, if that post was all you had about breadcrumbing then I'd have believed you more if you simply said you didn't breadcrumb Lift. The fact that you tried finding something reeks (not just smells or stinks) of someone trying to find a breadcrumb where none existed. There is no way a cop consciously makes such a breadcrumb.

ZFR: Why do people keep saying that? If we mislynch then after the NK it's 3 vs 2 and we're at MYLO. Am I missing something?

trentonlf: #4 is not accurate, if Pooka is town and doesn’t get lynched and we lynch another townie who is not the cop, why would scum leave Pooka alive? They can’t have him investigate anyone else because tomorrow they can’t counter claim because that would be all kinds of scummy.

PookaMustard: Okay. I'll stop talking about myself, since I'm guaranteed lynch at this rate, so it's no use going against the inevitable. I do rather all of your hurled me into the observer thread so I can take a time out and go through the Notions of What Not to Dos, but whether you want me dead now or to-Night is no longer mine to influence. It is your prerogative.

Consider me dead. Pretend this is Day 3.

If I flip town, who's going to be suspect? And if I flip scum, will Lift come under fire?

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Something eluded me until now. If a power role is to breadcrumb, then would the lack of breadcrumbs indicating there is "another" cop strengthen my case, or weaken it further than it already is? Besides flub's "why are you hurrying me to lynch without letting me claim" post, there was no breadcrumbs to be found from anyone else about either doctor or cop.

ZFR: They can leave him alive because he's going to get lynched.

Here is a question: we don't lynch Pooka, we mislynch a Townie and Pooka survives N2, despite claiming Cop. Do you trust him? He himself claims that it's safe not to lynch him because "if he survives N2 it would be proof he's scum".

trentonlf: And you know for sure he’s going to be lynched how?

ZFR: I'm saying it's going to be a crappy situation for Town to be in; they either have to believe the above and lynch Pooka on a Day they can no longer afford to make any mistakes or put him as Town and risk having a scum escape. I'd rather the decision is made today.

ZFR: I'm not saying he'll be lynched on D3. Pooka is the one who's saying "If I survive N2 you'll know I'm scum so lynch me on D3".
I'm saying it's going to be a crappy situation for Town to be in; they either have to believe the above and lynch Pooka on a Day they can no longer afford to make any mistakes or put him as Town and risk having a scum escape. I'd rather the decision is made today.

PookaMustard: Okay. I'll stop talking about myself, since I'm guaranteed lynch at this rate, so it's no use going against the inevitable. I do rather all of your hurled me into the observer thread so I can take a time out and go through the Notions of What Not to Dos, but whether you want me dead now or to-Night is no longer mine to influence. It is your prerogative.

Consider me dead. Pretend this is Day 3.

If I flip town, who's going to be suspect? And if I flip scum, will Lift come under fire?

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Something eluded me until now. If a power role is to breadcrumb, then would the lack of breadcrumbs indicating there is "another" cop strengthen my case, or weaken it further than it already is? Besides flub's "why are you hurrying me to lynch without letting me claim" post, there was no breadcrumbs to be found from anyone else about either doctor or cop.

PookaMustard: So crunching this data together...
- If you trust I am town and go for Scenario 2, you got two chances to lynch scum, one today and one the next day.
- If you trust I am scum, just seeing if I live on Day 3 will be enough confirmation to get rid of me.

PookaMustard: - If you trust I am scum, just seeing if I live on Day 3 will be enough confirmation to get rid of me.

RedFireGaming: <snip>

agentcarr16: Be careful about the double-posts.