Pookina: The confidence GH is displaying by saying Trent is my scumbuddy, when even I don't have an idea who could be our other guy, is quite baffling to be honest.
I am not 100% sure Trent is scum along with you(there is a slim chance he could be town)....but I think they're more likely scum....especially after they warned everyone not to do speed votes then later put me at L-1.
Pookina: I'm not sure what this suggests at all, but his new play style for this Day is quite...a paradigm shift for GH. I like it for how unexpected it is. (Call me a masochist if you want *laugh*)
Is that nervous laughter from "perpetual greenhorn GH" finding scum!you out, I wonder? ;)
As I said to (iirc) Catte: when town and I feel scum might be/are trying to make me an easy lynch/chance at winning the game(and more so when town is behind as we are now), I sometimes "rise to the occasion" and try harder to help my team win.
Pookina: I guess my gambit, however strange it may be, must have paid off.
Copying me on the whole gambit thing, eh?
Pookina: Unless one of the scums is the absent Microfish, this is probably a good indicator there just aren't enough scum to get the show going. What I'm saying is yes, either GH is scum or our scumteam has Scum X (where X can or can not be GH) + Micro.
Let me let ya in on something: if I were scum i'd likely have did my best to either push an easy mislynch so we could win(risky play), or i'd let my fellow scum vote/hammer me so they could try and win the game on their own(safer play).
(of course can't prove alignment....salt......etc etc)
Pookina: But now the situation gets better. Now the people on GH's wagon involve me and Trent. His involvement is a new development, at 44 minutes ago at the time of writing. Even better still: he brought him to L-1. Perfect opportunity for Catte, joppo, or an absent Micro, to show up and throw the game. Somehow didn't happen still. Although let's be honest, the window of time when GH was at L-1 was just 7 minutes.
Yeah, Trent(being a player that usually seems against anti-town play like that) voting me gave me pause.....which is part of why he's next on my scum list....after yourself, of course.
As for the 7 minutes: I was going to go to bed for a bit and give my vote a few more hours, but then I decided to check the game one more time.....luckily I was on then, else i'd likely have been lynched easily in due time.
Pookina: As for trent violating his own instruction, I honestly don't blame him. If GH hasn't reacted to my vote the way he did this Day, things would have likely gone differently, for better or worse. But the self-vote ticked me off, and I understand if trent feels the same way abut it.
Yeah, Trent being against self-voting and some other plays I make is one reason I don't lean him close to being 100% scum.
Pookina: I see Catte and Micro expressing doubts about what I had done. Give it a shot: if I was scum, would I really bring that much attention to myself and put the Town points I gained into jeopardy?
YES Why? Because I am easily suspect due to my playstyle(and a bit more so in this game).....so i'm guessing scum!you would see it as an easy lynch and make a go at it....especially with the game at Mylo.
(also remember how you were ok with self hammering after my suggestion to do so when we were scum in that prior game? That and etc make me feel you'd be willing to take risks sometimes)
Pookina: The way I see it, if Town wants to win, we need to take a few bold risks to get somewhere. We can't just keep the kiddy gloves on all the time when all we have for a proper wagon is blotunga.
Which is why I committed the "sin" of self voting. It was either that, or try explaining myself as usual....which would've likely gotten me lynched in short order.
Pookina: Now see, if I were really scum, I'd just wait a bit longer to see how things play out and do what I usually do. Even better yet: I've been after GH the whole game. If I was Town previously when I was against GH, why would I be suspicious when I decide to give GH his only vote this Day? I hadn't even anticipated that another person could join the GH wagon, let alone himself, to be fair.
Because, for starters, Trent urged no speed voting and (iirc) said that we were at mylo....yet you voted anyways.
Pookina: Trent's position against NL is NAI, understandable and makes sense if you've been around him for any amount of time. He's an action guy, and if I remember well, he even argued with ZFR about the merits of following the maths in a previous game. Coming into a game with a NL already happened must've been a hard swallow, now imagine that another one happened due to Town Incompetence, and you're asking him to NL a third time in this game alone. No wonder he's against NL.
I am guessing he's also wanting town to win....and a NL would be better than risking a mislynch.
Pookina: Even though I voiced my disagreement in the beginning, I would've been fine with a NL on D1, but this is getting too much. I want to play the game, not wait another 48 hours before we can move again.
Honest question: Why are ya in a rush? I mean, it's not like you have to watch the thread while it's in N4.....or stick around the entire time in d4.
That said: If you want to hurry the game up, you could vote NL and help us skip this extra wait for a NL through indecision. Pookina: By this point it's been roughly 24 hours with GH at L-2. Everyone has got online during this period and chimed in with a cent or two. Plus, GH actually removed his self-vote. I'm still not convinced he's Town, but I believe we're in a better situation now than we were the previous Day.
Well yeah I removed it....it had served it's purpose by then(to try and maybe ferret out the other scum member or until someone else voted and I had to remove my vote to not cost town the game).
Pookina: NL or not, I'm more interested in using this Day to assess the current state of affairs.
Wait, didn't you say you don't want to wait another 48 hours(during another night phase)? So then why seemingly ok with keeping the game going even longer by keeping D4 going until EOD?
I mean, i'm ok with either way of going to NL....it just puzzles me that you seem to not want to wait another "night", yet seem to be ok with prolonging d4.
