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Microfish_1: @GH @Lift please list you list of suspects in case you are town and get lunched.
Sorry for not doing this on D1(had to do stuff quickly IRL at the spur of the moment)...my list would be pretty much near anyone that isn't me, as I have little to go on atm. On D1 I figured ZFR might be scum but was more likely a tunneling town....and now I see the latter was indeed the case.

Only thing I mainly have to go on atm(iirc...my memory is a bit fuzzy as always) for the most part is Book's odd seeming start bit to post 84(the reply and the quoted bits)....which could be Book subtly admitting to being scum this game, but could alos be me chasing at shadows once again.

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Microfish_1: I'm about to curl up in a dark room with my headache and advil.. if I'm around in a hour, I'll vote either of my 2 main suspects (Lift & GH) to avoid NL, because i think they both are scummy.
You had one too? I have one now...well had....I took some headache medicine and it's starting to go away.

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dedoporno: ZFR is dead.

He was Town Naive Impaired Vigilante who tried to shoot at another player but shot himself instead.

PS: The above was a joke and ZFR wasn't a naive vigilante but a simple vanilla townie. He dead, though. Ha! Got 'eeem!
Good good....only a few more to go till we take over the shi....I mean CRAP! :(

Despite my heated words yesterday(which I said mostly due to IRL taking it's toll on me and other factors) i'd like to see us win this.....so I will now try to do a bit better to that end....for ZFR and every other member of the town team.

So to all players: Who are your top 1-3 suspects, and who would you be most willing to vote for?

Also did anything about the wagons/posts from D1(and the choice of ZFR for NK) stand out, that y'all would like to point out?
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I wonder, would scum!Lift get rid of ZFR?
Of course it could be that we have a town!Lift and a scum who wasn't in ZFR's sights and NKed him.
Might be worth ISO'ing ZFR and see what precisely he was up to, now that he's been cleared of suspicion. That's the best thing we can do besides analyzing the incomplete wagons of yesterday, anyway. Unfortunately it's early in the morning and my workday just started, so, yeah, I'm just throwing the idea out here until I get to actually do it myself.

"I have a bad feeling about this." -han solo
Hmm. ZFR as target means, that scum didn't go for the minimal information route. Instead they removed one player who was relatively town-read by the majority and who was an active player. Which is especially beneficial for them when that active player was on a wrong track. I know he was concerning me. And I wonder if that means that ZFR's suspicion of GH was also wrong. In any case the hypothesis that ZFR and GH might be scum together who made a show of distancing has turned out to be wrong.

On the plus side, we have interactions to analyze. Now with the knowledge that ZFR was Town. I'll start to do so after work.
I was all ready to call dedo a bastard mod but he got me.

It doesn't seem likely that ZFR was killed for being too close to the truth - unless we either have very naïve scum or they're confidently bluffing. Both seems fairly unlikely so for now I have Lift leaning town.
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my name is capitayn catte: I was all ready to call dedo a bastard mod but he got me.

It doesn't seem likely that ZFR was killed for being too close to the truth - unless we either have very naïve scum or they're confidently bluffing. Both seems fairly unlikely so for now I have Lift leaning town.
So you think that Lift wouldn't have eliminated the one who suspected him most?
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my name is capitayn catte: I was all ready to call dedo a bastard mod but he got me.

It doesn't seem likely that ZFR was killed for being too close to the truth - unless we either have very naïve scum or they're confidently bluffing. Both seems fairly unlikely so for now I have Lift leaning town.
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blotunga: So you think that Lift wouldn't have eliminated the one who suspected him most?
Nah, I think it's too obvious. I mean it might be a bluff, but it seems unlikely.
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Pookina: Might be worth ISO'ing ZFR and see what precisely he was up to, now that he's been cleared of suspicion. That's the best thing we can do besides analyzing the incomplete wagons of yesterday, anyway. Unfortunately it's early in the morning and my workday just started, so, yeah, I'm just throwing the idea out here until I get to actually do it myself.

"I have a bad feeling about this." -han solo
Can't wait to see yer followup post later.....also: if you could reply to the questions posed in post 303 i'd appreciate it. :)

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Lifthrasil: Hmm. ZFR as target means, that scum didn't go for the minimal information route. Instead they removed one player who was relatively town-read by the majority and who was an active player. Which is especially beneficial for them when that active player was on a wrong track. I know he was concerning me. And I wonder if that means that ZFR's suspicion of GH was also wrong. In any case the hypothesis that ZFR and GH might be scum together who made a show of distancing has turned out to be wrong.

On the plus side, we have interactions to analyze. Now with the knowledge that ZFR was Town. I'll start to do so after work.
My theory is the scum team left me alive because (as ZFR said, I believe) I am a distraction(correct term?) in a number of these games....and also that they removed ZFR from the game because he's often good with analysis and finding scum in general.

Btw: As with Pookina above, if ya can answer the questions in post 303 later(when ya post again here) i'd appreciate it.
Going back through some ZFR interactions: at times he thought blotunga or Bookwyrm to be scum with GH. But he had hardly any interaction with Micro or Flocke or Pooka and also a low interaction with Catte. But the latter is probably partially due to Catte's absence. Towards the later part of the Day, he was Town-reading Flocke and blotunga.

Maybe scum felt safe killing ZFR, because they didn't have much interaction with him that can be analyzed?

Another think of note is, how Pooka voted after Nightfall, perhaps just to be seen voting? And his first post Today is also very general. It might be worth ISO'ing ZFR? Really? Well, I am waiting to see what results that ISO brings.

@blotunga: I probably would not have killed ZFR. Killing your main opponent if you really are scum, leads to too much attention. But then again, I would probably say the exact same thing if I were scum. So, if I deemed it necessary, I might have tried something like that and then tried to WIFOM my way out. But I don't think that I would have deemed it necessary to kill ZFR yet.
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Lifthrasil: .
I agree he had nothing serious on you and NKing him would have been very brazen. We'll find out later it seems.
I also think that another likelihood is someone whom ZFR didn't interact with. Unfortunately I saw pooka's vote in the morning so I don't know how much later he voted after dedo's post, so that would be nice to know if someone by any chance saw it.
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blotunga: Unfortunately I saw pooka's vote in the morning so I don't know how much later he voted after dedo's post, so that would be nice to know if someone by any chance saw it.
It wasn't that much later. I don't recall how much later, but not a lot.
VOTE COUNT

No one is voting.

With 9 players it takes 5 votes to achieve a lynch.

Everyone is closest to lynch at L-5.

D2 ends in 7 days.
Post edited April 26, 2021 by dedoporno
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Bookwyrm627: It wasn't that much later. I don't recall how much later, but not a lot.
Ok, then let's give Pooka the benefit of doubt.