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Lifthrasil: I don't know about GH yet. It's the same question that you had about me. Would he really kill ZFR while being one of ZFR's main suspects? Would he trust in WIFOM that much? It is possible.
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GymHenson: Fwiw, I believe I passed on NKing a very good player in a prior game as scum, and then that decision bit our scum team in that game on the behind later on.....so making unwise decisions is possible when i'm scum, just as when i'm town.
You notice, that you're arguing against yourself here? You say, you made the error of not killing a good player in a prior game and that turned out bad. Now, you had a good player on your tail in this game. It would be a natural reaction, that you didn't want to repeat the previous error and go for the kill this time. Hoping, that the 'I wouldn't do that as scum' argument would keep you in the clear.

About the missing players having no internet: that is possible, though unlikely to hit two players at the same time. Still, I hope this is the explanation. Since intentionally not playing would be very bad style.
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Pookina: I'd say that by now he's gutsy enough to pull this move and get away with it using his unconventional playstyle. But you reminded me of an important point: his memory wouldn't let him do it with the ease that I'm imagining. I don't think he'd go back to his Mafia Notes™️, if it even has his previous games written there. So it's not entirely out of the question that he'd put all his stock into WIFOM, but it's not as simple as "I can do it and get away with it!"
I actually have my note files saved from the last several games...that said, they are a bit sparse.
(I am trying to take more notes, but I either forget to do so or I put it off and then forget in a number of instances)

"Fun fact": part of the reason why I seemed to "flip-flop"(correct term?) when explaining myself to ZFR in this game(and others in other games) is because of the same memory issues....I forget sometimes what I partially/fully meant with some word/action of mine in these games, and then I try to recall my motivation behind such words/actions when asked as best I can....instead of just saying "I don't recall atm" when that's the case(I am a bit embarrassed of my memory problems, as y'all can likely tell).

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Pookina: But I think there's a benefit to lynching either you or Lift. Like I said on D1, I'm not a fan of offing Lift who I believe to be Town, but stick with me for a little bit: notice the wagons of the previous Day, again:

If we decide to lynch either you or Lift, we gain info on a complete wagon on top of a previous incomplete wagon. Obviously I'm not a fan of this approach, I'd rather one of you slip or say stuff that is Alignment Indicative™️, but that's the option I'm seeing right now.
Well not gonna self vote(despite what I said partly out of frustration due to IRL issues on D1). Lift is as good as any, but they are(imo) a competent player, and I don't want to see them lynched if they're town(I mainly voted them on D1 so we could have a wagon...as they were the only viable one then besides me). I'd happily vote almost anyone else, though.

Well, ok, there is Book's Post 84(the first bit of it)...it seemed a bit off to me...probably nothing as usual, though, given my track record and all.

(i'm mostly still in the dark on suspecting people, so to me most are as good as any atm to vote for)

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Pookina: I had no idea Forrest Gump was that old.
Well in the film I believe he was born in the 50s so if he was real he would be pushing 70. ;D

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Pookina: @everyone
VOTE DAMMIT
Vote Janet ;)

Ok, I kid I kid....real vote will be:

Vote Bookwyrm

(Why? Because I have little to go on, and atm anyone is more or less nearly as vote worthy as anyone else...might change it later if/as needed)

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One boomp needed
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GymHenson: One boomp needed
Bump you!
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GymHenson: Fwiw, I believe I passed on NKing a very good player in a prior game as scum, and then that decision bit our scum team in that game on the behind later on.....so making unwise decisions is possible when i'm scum, just as when i'm town.

That said, I don't think even I would be so dumb as to paint a target on my back by NKing ZFR if I were scum....of course, as always, since I cannot verify I am town feel free to take that with the usual smidgen of sodium.
Yo. Who would you target if you were scum? Assume D1 happened as it did and it's N1, but your scumbuddy has been unavailable.

Also if you were Town, what would you do if ZFR lived but someone else did?

"I made my family disappear." -Kevin, Home Alone, 1990
Thanks, Cadbery-daver...best boomp butler ever :D
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Lifthrasil: You notice, that you're arguing against yourself here? You say, you made the error of not killing a good player in a prior game and that turned out bad.
Forgot to mention there the major reason why I didn't NK that player in the prior game: I didn't want eyes drawn on me

Of course that player and others then found me out anyways...turning my "grand attempt at strategy" back then against me.

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Lifthrasil: Now, you had a good player on your tail in this game. It would be a natural reaction, that you didn't want to repeat the previous error and go for the kill this time. Hoping, that the 'I wouldn't do that as scum' argument would keep you in the clear.
You give me too much credit....(imo) i'm not that good a player. :)

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Lifthrasil: About the missing players having no internet: that is possible, though unlikely to hit two players at the same time. Still, I hope this is the explanation. Since intentionally not playing would be very bad style.
I was more pointing out one IRL thing that might prevent players from contacting the forums/game/OP of said game/etc.....of course it could a number of things....essentially I was trying to point out that they might be in IRL situations where they are too busy to contact the game/OP of the game or cannot do so for some reason.
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Pookina: Yo. Who would you target if you were scum? Assume D1 happened as it did and it's N1, but your scumbuddy has been unavailable.
Well we WERE scum together that one time, and you know me.....i'd be more likely to pick someone that wasn't focused on me the prior "day" at random from the town player pool.

(of course now I know a new strategy and might NK the one most focused on me the prior "day" if ever scum again...but then I might not.....good chance i'd maybe forget this idea/strategy at some point anyways)

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Pookina: Also if you were Town, what would you do if ZFR lived but someone else did?
Well I somewhat was starting to lean ZFR town by end of D1, so if he had survived i'd likely have focused on others(to find scum from among them) while hoping ZFR was town.

(tired so dunno if I said the above right and used the right words....hopefully I did and ain't too confusing)

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Pookina: "I made my family disappear." -Kevin, Home Alone, 1990
"Ohhh, you're COOKIN', Frankie!" Uncle Frank, Home Alone 2, some year or so that I cannot recall atm
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I still haven't heard back from Flocke and nmillar. If they don't respond in the next couple of days I'll start looking for subs and consider extending the day or maybe putting the game on hold for a few days. At least Lift may benefit from that.


VOTE COUNT

GymHenson 1 - Pookina (#332)
Bookwyrm627 1 - GymHenson (#347)

With 9 players it takes 5 votes to achieve a lynch.

GymHenson and Bookwyrm627 are closest to lynch at L-4.

D2 ends in 4.5 days.
Unless plans change, I'm going to be AFK for the next 12 hours.

Meantime, While acknowledging that ZFR is not infallible, he was voting for Lift, so it isn't automatically a bad lunch. I believe that Lift has the guts to NK ZFR and then try and use the very same WIFOM that he mentioned to give himself a pass. I'll
vote Lift
in order to get things kicking.
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GymHenson: Ok, I kid I kid....real vote will be:

Vote Bookwyrm

(Why? Because I have little to go on, and atm anyone is more or less nearly as vote worthy as anyone else...might change it later if/as needed)
That is a very weak reason. Why Bookwyrm and not me? Or one of the absentees? Or anyone else? What makes Bookwyrm be your first choice?

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Microfish_1: Unless plans change, I'm going to be AFK for the next 12 hours.

Meantime, While acknowledging that ZFR is not infallible, he was voting for Lift, so it isn't automatically a bad lunch. I believe that Lift has the guts to NK ZFR and then try and use the very same WIFOM that he mentioned to give himself a pass. I'll
vote Lift
in order to get things kicking.
Well, at least you found a different reason than me suspecting you. ;-)

Hmm. If we had only one lurker now, I would vote them to incentivize coming back. But we have two and I can't vote both. Still, at this time their absence is beyond the question of scum or not. It's hampering the game.

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Bookwyrm627: Still no Nmillar or Flock. It'd be too easy if they were the scum team and afk'd to death.
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dedoporno: I have poked both of them privately. In addition to that I contacted both of them to invite them to re-join the game.
How long do you plan to give them after that prod, before replacing them for inactivity? Maybe I am too impatient. But two players missing in such a small game is really bad.
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Lifthrasil: That is a very weak reason. Why Bookwyrm and not me? Or one of the absentees? Or anyone else? What makes Bookwyrm be your first choice?

Well, at least you found a different reason than me suspecting you. ;-)

Hmm. If we had only one lurker now, I would vote them to incentivize coming back. But we have two and I can't vote both. Still, at this time their absence is beyond the question of scum or not. It's hampering the game.

How long do you plan to give them after that prod, before replacing them for inactivity? Maybe I am too impatient. But two players missing in such a small game is really bad.
I could vote the one lurker and you the other? 乁( ◔ ౪◔)ㄏ
Also, the reason that I didn't vote you earlier was--I was consciously deciding not to vote because "they're suspecting things" (Oklahoma tune coming through there) but for a reason; I had to take the time to separate the knee-jerk tendency towards a reactionary vote and make sure I had a semblance of a real reason.

Though to your credit is your question of GH that I just had and logged in to ask.

@GH Why vote for Wyrm? Give reasons please?

Lurkers please come back or we shall be forced to look in your direction with sorrow. (ಠ_ಠ)
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Lifthrasil: How long do you plan to give them after that prod, before replacing them for inactivity? Maybe I am too impatient. But two players missing in such a small game is really bad.
Unfortunately that's not really a question of preference rather than of availability. So far I have only one potential sub. I've reached out to couple others and waiting for confirmation.
VOTE COUNT

GymHenson 1 - Pookina (#332)
Bookwyrm627 1 - GymHenson (#347)
Lifthrasil 1 - Microfish_1 (#353)

With 9 players it takes 5 votes to achieve a lynch.

GymHenson, Bookwyrm627 and Lifthrasil are closest to lynch at L-4.

D2 ends in 4 days.


PSA: Our Easter is this weekend and I'll be visiting my in-laws with my family on Sunday. My availability on that day will be limited but I will make an appearance for sure.
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Lifthrasil: That is a very weak reason. Why Bookwyrm and not me? Or one of the absentees? Or anyone else? What makes Bookwyrm be your first choice?

Well, at least you found a different reason than me suspecting you. ;-)

Hmm. If we had only one lurker now, I would vote them to incentivize coming back. But we have two and I can't vote both. Still, at this time their absence is beyond the question of scum or not. It's hampering the game.

How long do you plan to give them after that prod, before replacing them for inactivity? Maybe I am too impatient. But two players missing in such a small game is really bad.
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Microfish_1: I could vote the one lurker and you the other? 乁( ◔ ౪◔)ㄏ
Good idea. Let's do that.

vote nmillar
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Lifthrasil: That is a very weak reason.
It's still (most of....the rest is listed below) the truth....as I said, i'm not as good at these games in general, and recent IRL threw my game off even more so(didn't make as many notes, not noticing much as my mind is sometimes elsewhere, etc).

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Lifthrasil: Why Bookwyrm and not me? Or one of the absentees? Or anyone else? What makes Bookwyrm be your first choice?
Well I could've voted you, but your IRL situation(that you posted about earlier) made me take a bit of pity on ya.....and as such I decided to give ya a free pass for now.

As for Book.....I took little notes so far, so have little to go on, and one of the notes/game posts I focused on was Book's post 84(first bit of it, book's reply and the bits they were replying to)....it seemed (if read a certain way) to be a tiny bit off to me. Of course it's likely i'm chasing shadows...again....but eh: it's hopefully better than using random.org to pick someone at random.

PP Edit: Saw you voted for Nmillar.....might be willing to join on if the book wagon goes nowhere...etc etc
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Microfish_1: Unless plans change, I'm going to be AFK for the next 12 hours.
That's fine....I hope everything is ok with you and yours?

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Microfish_1: @GH Why vote for Wyrm? Give reasons please?
I listed em in my reply to Lift(359) above..feel free to peruse when ya get back. :)

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Microfish_1: Lurkers please come back or we shall be forced to look in your direction with sorrow. (ಠ_ಠ)
I prefer the sad kitty eyes meself in such situations. ;D