Thanks for this....hopefully it/other stuff will help town make the right calls on d5.

I can pretty much guess why a town!you might suspect him.
(it's likely some of the same reasons I do, I am guessing)

That is partly why I am asking for suspects lists....so we can find someone we all agree on.

I actually needed it, thanks.
As for your question, I covered it already from the point I started saying I was suspicious of Trent, including reasons.

That's not what I meant. I'm not talking about the 7 minutes of L-1, I'm talking about the several hours you were at L-2 and both and Catte were online and posting regularly. If BOTH OF US were scum, piling our votes and achieving a hammer before anyone had time to unvote would have been easy peasy.
So only 3 possibilities arise from that: either we are scum idiots who didn't realize we had the victory in our hands, or we are scum bastards that wanted to prolong the game for no reason other than to annoy everyone, or at least one of us isn't scum. I hope you don't think I'm an idiot or a bastard.

The same thing happens again later when Pooka points out that you had two votes on you for several hours already: Micro and Trent have left you at L-2. Pooka, Catte and me, all posting actively, why didn't we pile two votes? Simply because there just are not two scum in this group.

15 minutes!

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Boo, my arm hurts.

Not a problem

Thanks for this....I was trying to get as many player's suspects lists listed near the end of the thread as possible before EOD......hopefully this all will help whomever of us is alive tomorrow.

That line of thinking is partly why I figure at least one scum was on my wagon already from the get go.
(dunno if i'm saying what I mean here right...hopefully I am)

Imo you are no bastard or idiot, good sir.

Well that's what I guess one gets when they take a jab from the "fine chaps" in *pic related* o.0 ;)
(jokes aside, I hope yer arm feels better soon enough)

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As the day comes to an end, GH stands from his playing before heading towards his cabin

"Things are somewhat chaotic, but I must be bright and ready for anything. A short rest is in order, I think....here's hoping it's chaotic enough for the traitors that I can avoid being tonight's casualty" GH thinks, as he prepares for the cold silence of slumber.

No-Lynch has been achieved.

FINAL VOTE COUNT ON D4

GymHenson 2 - trentonlf (#728), Microfish_1 (#762)
No-Lynch 2 - GymHenson (#732), Catte (#742)

Not voting: Joppo, Pookina

It it now Night.

Please, stop posting in this thread.

Day 5 will start in some 48-60 hours.

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Joppo is dead.

He was Town Vanilla.

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It is now Day.

With 5 players it takes 3 votes to achieve a lynch.

Day 5 ends in approximately 7 days.

Normally the Day would be shorter but if I'm not mistaken the upcoming weekend is a long one for US players so I'm pre-emptively adding an extension to accommodate any potential holiday absences. In case no one needs it let me know or simply don't wait for the deadline to make your Choice.

You may begin posting.

No I'm not. T'is a flesh wound.

(Go Town!)

On the one hand: Crap

On the other: One less in my suspects pool....down to just Pookina and Trent now....which makes my voting choice easier.

(Btw sorry to see ya go Joppo.....will meet up with ya again at endgame[hopefully with a win])

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Now to all....a bit I wrote out when d4 closed:

(Figured there was a good chance i'd not be the NK for n4, so I wrote this out while waiting for the game to resume. I'd appreciate it if everyone still in the game read it at least once before voting)

So i'm still alive, it seems....and we're now at a turning point. Who gets the "honor" of being lynched next? Shall it be me or someone else?

If someone else: i'm willing to vote for Pookina or Trent...with a bit more preference for Pookina.
(i'm also willing to maybe vote for Joppo, but not as willing as with the other two)

If it's to be me, I know one thing: it won't be with my help, as i'm not self voting....I want scum to work for it. I'd also like people to maybe think/discuss for a bit before voting for anyone(me or someone else).

So what'll it be, fellas?

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As for me, gonna wait a bit because: if the first voter(whomever it is) is town and picks wrong, then scum could(if on at the same time or near to it) pile on and get an easy mislynch(also probably win the game, i'm guessing).

Well exactly what happened is what I expected. As the day progressed yesterday and GH never did get lynched my thoughts were this, Pooka and Micro are the scum team as they were the only ones, besides GH himself, who got on the wagon with me (although technically I got on with Pooka). I could have it wrong and Catte is playing a very well hidden scum game with Pooka, GH, or Micro, but I don't think so, and I don't think GH is scum. So I am pretty confident that Pooka and Micro are the scum team and a lynch of each of them would win the game for Town, but (and this will upset people I am sure) we don't deserve to win. Scum being able to push through 3 no lynches and never really draw any heat from Town deserve the win.

I could have it totally wrong and GH really is scum and is just using his playstyle to try and win as scum since his playstyle is so often scummy. Either way I am voting GH today like I said and I am not moving my vote.

Vote GymHenson

Er, why or how do you it is me? Please explain how I could be paired with Pooka? I don't see your reasoning? I still think GH is our common denominator. Of a Pooka/GH or Catte/GH or Trent/GH team.

Going off of Joppo's EoD reasoning, You and I were on the wagon together and unless there were 2 scum out of Joppo/Pooka/Catte, there wouldn't be a NL. I just don't see it. I think GH was scum, and was scared after his LAMIST self vote drew all that attention. Therefore, the other scum jumped on the wagon to distance. Or, Pooka and you are scum and couldn't entice town players to join your GH wagon. Or, scum decided to drag the day out to look towny. If it was Pooka/GH or Pooka/Trent, Pooka voted to distance/bus and unvoted to make others (me and/or you) look bad.
Scum got what they could afford--namely a NL and another chance. Why would Catte & I or Pooka & I have not hammered GH when it was at L1 or L2 for a while and we were all online together (in the 700-750s)? Simply, I don't see this possibility. I see a strong possibility of GH+pooka/trent, but don't know which of you two it is.
As it is, we are at LYLO and I don't want to misstep so I'll wait before voting GH. Let the other missing 2 players talk and all that.

And that what I was waiting for: the first scum to find some excuse to vote for me

I know you get frustrated easily on occasion at player's actions and other things in these games, but I don't think YOU of all people would throw a game if you thought a player was town.

So I really would prefer Pookina, but:


Vote Trent


Note to all: My theory was that one scum would start the wagon, wait for one more town to join on, then let their partner hammer. As such, I ask all town to think before voting on ANY wagon(even the one I started now on Trent).

The bigger thing to focus on is this: they claim that they think i'm town, yet they voted for me

Or perhaps they have some players who don't believe in and won't vote NL no matter what.....players like Pookina and Trent, for example?

You seem to make some good points here, if i'm reading it right(my mind has trouble with more complex ideas sometimes).

Good idea...also:

I note you have Trent/pookina paired with me, so if I may make a suggestion: maybe we could pool our votes on this one and vote one of them together?

(either one is fine...also, of course AFTER you think on it for a bit...no need to rush voting for anyone, as I said above)

So, remember when I said that Lift vs. nmillar is town-on-town violence? I'm scared by how I got this right. What upsets me more is the two people involved in the wagon confusion (blotunga, nmillar) are Town, so they were a convenient smokescreen and distraction for us on D3.

Either way, hmmm...Trent suddenly comes up saying Micro and myself are the scumteam. I mean...is that all because I didn't vote GH? Tsk. Do you realize that if I voted GH, it would be pointless because everyone else was already decided on a nolynch? That's why I just let it happen. Whether I kicked and screamed or not, it was gonna happen and nothing would have changed that, short of Joppo joining me - again, really unlikely.

But needless to say, I'm finding your vote of GH despite your new theory to be really just testing my patience. Okay, you think I'm scum, and that's fine even if the reasoning is flimsy. Why vote GH then? You even say you don't think he is scum! Nobody cares if you stick to what you said the previous Day, what we care about is that you vote whoever you believe is the scummiest. Breaking this pattern is bringing me so close to voting you. Actually, might as well do it.

(a vote for trentonlf was redacted when seeing that Micro has already put his - the vote will be reinstated soon)
hmmm
points Finger of Suspicion at trentonlf
there, ought to have the same effects in theory, without the risks

So here are the facts, so we can decide what we will do today. NOLYNCH IS NOT AN OPTION. We're at LyLo. Either lynch correctly, or open the champagne for our Mafiosos already.

GH - Pooka, GH.
GH - Trent, Micro.

Neither of these got dogpiled. I'm fairly confident catte is Town. I also believe Trent is dangerous to keep around. Whether the second mafioso is really GH as I think he is, or Micro is playing the long game, will probably be the question of D6, if we ever make it.

So possible scumteams excluding catte (and myself just in case anybody asks why I'm missing):

Trent + GH: most working theory so far
Trent + Micro: Explains why he couldn't dogpile during the seven minutes of GH L-1
GH + Micro: Pure black comedy

"The future belongs to those who know where they belong." -Jeanine, Divergent, 2014