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I feel so tired: 1, max $1500 / €1376.27 ( with taxes , postage fees )
Hungarian store iPon often has favorable prices versus stores here. I don't know how they compare with local stores, but maybe worth checking out. Edit: they have configuration suggestions with all the various parts for a PC build.
Post edited July 04, 2023 by Ice_Mage
The Noctua provides a lot of value, in that it has a six year warranty, and they continue to make mounting kits available for newer sockets for the price of postage. I agree that it's somewhat eyebrow-raising in a budget build, though!
Yea it's definitely not a budget choice, but I don't think $1500 is exactly a buget PC either. As always, there are tradeoffs to make and for me a PC should just be quiet no matter how much I'm loading it. So I would put such a cooler even on a $200 65W TDP CPU. Bonus points for the possibly extended longevity from not running a chip at 90 degrees :P (Or more thermal headroom for OC, if you swing that way.)

One thing to consider is that if you go with AM5 and a "cheap" 6-core CPU, that socket and cooler should have plenty of life ahead of them so if you want to throw in a more beefy GPU & CPU a few years down the line, no problem. The new high end AM5 chips have pretty sick TDPs, to the point that they're now recommending watercooling or one of these high end air coolers. Your system should be good for quite a while that way. If you go with older (AM4) gen, you will save some now but there's no upgrade path.

If you don't care about upgrades and noise, then no problem, get a cheaper cooler. AMD used to sell boxed ryzen CPUs with passable coolers with good bang for buck but I guess that's no longer a thing?

Similar considerations apply to PSU. You could get away with much less than 750W (though I'm not sure how bad the rumored power spikes with the current gen GPUs are) and find that you'll have to replace the PSU too if you ever want to put in some beefier parts.

I agree with Themken on that GPU. RX 6600 is OK but if budget allows and other stores have better stock, I'd consider 6700XT (or whatever NVidia offers for similar performance).

That said, I currently have a 5600XT and I don't feel like I'm missing out on much. Don't care about RT, don't care if I can't run everything on high/ultra. But then again I also don't really care about running the latest AAA games, it's not like GOG has tons of them anyway. By the time the latest AAA games are old enough to be on GOG and in my library... I'll probably have a much beefier rig anyway. That is unless I just quit new games altogether, which is becoming tempting :P
Post edited July 04, 2023 by clarry
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clarry: Yea it's definitely not a budget choice, but I don't think $1500 is exactly a buget PC either. As always, there are tradeoffs to make and for me a PC should just be quiet no matter how much I'm loading it. So I would put such a cooler even on a $200 65W TDP CPU. Bonus points for the possibly extended longevity from not running a chip at 90 degrees :P (Or more thermal headroom for OC, if you swing that way.)
So tempting to go a little off-topic here... earlier this year I kitted out a 3D printer with all Noctua fans (with the aid of some dirt cheap buck converters and PWM signal generators), and my ears are thanking me for it.

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clarry: The new high end AM5 chips have pretty sick TDPs, to the point that they're now recommending watercooling or one of these high end air coolers.
You definitely want the contact frame on the new Intels, and maybe even look at direct-die cooling on the new AMDs... the new Ryzen IHS is trash.
https://www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B0C9QDF38C

this is tempting ( i know it's only has integrated graphics with raytracing support )
Post edited July 05, 2023 by I feel so tired
Why replace the potato? It can even run an advanced AI like GLADOS!
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I feel so tired: https://www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B0C9QDF38C

this is tempting ( i know it's only has integrated graphics with raytracing support )
To be honest, unless you're buying a nVidia 4xxx GPU, I wouldn't bother with ray-tracing support for new games. A 3xxx will be fine for Ray Tracing on games released up to the end of 2021. AMD and Intel's ray tracing is a generation or two behind (AMD focussed on compute instead and Intel is getting up to speed but okay in the budget space)

The thing that puts me off the tiny computers is the cooling situation and difficulty to upgrade. As an iGPU goes, the 7940HS is pretty good, but it's nowhere near as good as a proper GPU - which is going to be your limiting factor down the road - especially as you can't put a proper GPU in that chassis.
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Lifthrasil: Why replace the potato? It can even run an advanced AI like GLADOS!
Thanks . You made my day . =))
Go for it? If you were thinking of playing newest games on anything more than low settings and sub-60 framerates at 1080p, you may be disappointed.. but it's not bad for an iGPU.

I kinda like that mini PC form factor, though my biggest fear is that it has an annoying little whiny fan whose bearings fail in 7 months.

It's quite plausible that I'll go for an APU myself in a few years, but I'd probably consider some "near-passive" mATX/mITX build with a desktop APU and then some quality fan for a little bit of forced draft.
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I feel so tired: Can this be a good replacement to play newest ( after 2010 ) games ?

motherboard: Biostar A320MH Ver. 6
cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X processor 3.7 GHz
gpu: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB GDDR6 VRam
ram: 32gb DDR4 3200 MHz CL 22-22-22 Dual Channel
ssd: InnovationIT 1TB
Your GPU will be good for 1440p for a few years. Your RAM is fine. If you update your Ryzen, get a Ryzen 9 5900x if you plan to game in 2160p at lowered settings. To game in 2160p at higher settings you need at least an RX 6800 or RTX 3080 10GB/12GB (EVGA/ZOTAC) (do NOT buy a POS RTX 4060/TI nor the RX 7600/XT which are/will be ONLY 128bit bus and run out of VRAM in newer games).
I am unfamiliar with your Biostar board as I've been an MSI mobo user since the time of the Military grrade components 970 series.

My newest build:

MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge WiFi
Ryzen 7 3800X (not overclocked)
XFX RX 6800 16GB QICK graphics card (it's a weapon) (not overclocked) / PowerColor RX 6800 16GB Red Dragon
Corsair RGB Pro 32GB PC3200 RAM
Seasonic Focus-GX 750w power supply
SAMSUNG 970 EVO 512GB M.2 NVME
SAMSUNG 970 EVO 1TB M.2 NVME
SAMSUNG 860 EVO 1TB SSD
Western Digital Blue 1TB SSD
VisonTek 1TB SSD
Corsair nForce 256GB SSD

I picked up Red Dead Redemption II Ultimate, Guardians of the Galaxy, WatchDogs Legion Ultimate and a few others last week now that I can run them (all are memory hungry games).
Post edited July 11, 2023 by u2jedi
I dunno, sounds like if you drop some Linux on that badboy, you won't be forced to upgrade, and all the games you care about will run anyways.
I'm browsing on the internet since days and getting a headache .

Socket AM4: so many chipsets, so many motherboards , ridiculous prices .

edit: i think i have to think over the whole budget , since i don't want to play Cyberpunk or any of the newest AAA games in 4K .

But i own Trainz Simulator 2022 . Even installing a couple of GB of custom content at the same time makes my CPU cry .
Post edited July 12, 2023 by I feel so tired