Tlaksie: Wow, that was a QUICK reply xD Did you even read the last part of my post? Then tell me why I have so many games in my Steam library which I can play without the Steam app.
Vive de Lestai: Simple. You need the steam client at least initially to download and install the game. I'm mostly playing on an offline Windows 7 machine. And I am not going to switch to Windows 10 or 11 at all. That means no steam and therefore no steam games.
Besides, it's just way more convenient to have a store where you can rely on games being drm-free.
Ironhide is also a bit of a weird case for your point - this is the announcement for their latest KRV dlc - so they are still actively bringing content to gog. And on a steam thread they have confirmed that gog is a possibility for Alliance in the future. So there is really no reason to abandon gog on that front now...
I see, Vive de Lestai. I'm glad that you still have your haven on your Win7 machine. I don't know how long I clinged to my Win7, but it was long enough that I skipped Win8 entirely. Eventually my Win7 started making so much noise that I gave it to my mother and bought a Win10 machine instead. You do make a strong case for GOG for those who are still lucky to have previous operating systems. My posts are aimed at those who have Win10 or newer.
It's true that on GOG you can rely on games being DRM-Free. That's not the case on Steam. If you google about DRM-Free games on Steam, there will be sites that list such games but won't include all because new titles are constantly released. So it becomes a guessing game. Over the years I have become very good at that guessing game by discovering patterns in developers and publishers. And yes, that means I have bought games which aren't DRM-Free, but I still keep them and will eventually play them. Some games I don't care if they aren't DRM-Free because I bought them specifically to play with friends on Steam. For all the DRM-Free games I have discovered this way, I'm very happy with the result. It was totally worth it.
Ironhide does (thankfully) still support KRV on GOG, but their latest three games aren't on GOG yet. The oldest of them, Legends of Kingdom Rush, was released in July 2022 on Steam. If people here on GOG really want to play them, there is no reason to wait for them to arrive on GOG, when they are playable on Steam without the client running. And I have played all three of them. I don't want anyone to abandon GOG. I'm trying to say that people can be a GOG user and Steam user at the same time. I have 428 games on GOG and 334 on Steam as of right now.
Vive de Lestai: Simple. You need the steam client at least initially to download and install the game. (…)
vv221: That’s exactly it. Someone who disagrees with DRM usage, and as such won’t install some mandatory third-party software to access their games, can not access any Steam game at all.
I have obviously no problem with people playing Steam games, I am not expecting everyone to have the same strict rules about DRM. But pretending that these games are DRM-free is distorting what DRM is about, and as such has a detrimental effect for people who want truly DRM-free distribution to keep being a thing.
You are right in your statements, vv221. Both Steam and Epic Games Store are a grey areas concerning DRM. I'm open-minded enough to accept those environments. I have been a GOG user for a quite a while just like you. I felt limited in my game options on GOG due to new releases being slow and eventually had to break out of my "buy only on GOG" bubble. For example, without Epic I wouldn't have DRM-Free versions of Satisfactory, Standed Deep, Subnautica, Subnautica Below Zero, and Voidtrain (GOG is also lacking in open world survival games). GOG will always be around for truly DRM-Free distribution and I will always be a customer here. I'm eternally thankful for having Dying Light and Grim Dawn + all their DLCs fully DRM-Free from GOG.