Gaming only makes up about 8% of nVidia's business so I'm surprised they even bother with it at all. I think it's mostly a fallback position in case AI does not pan out.

There is a extremely high amount of cash to be made in the digital industrial complex, as those people are very close to "where coins are made" with big political influence. So... indeed... guess Nvidia currently only makes around 10% of their income out of their gaming business and the only reason they did not stop supporting gamers is because they indeed want to have some "backup plans"... kinda the same GOG would be compared to Steam.

So, Nvidia simply doesnt feel "bothered" and they are, according to what i know... already delivering the "AI industry" with tons of cards which are priced comparable to a new Tesla car... each... of course.

So, we pretty much had a "paper launch" and almost no one seems to get their cards... no matter at what price. Although, as long as the price paid is less than that of a brand new car... it is always a "second class consumer".

Paper Launch Gamers Nexus

AMD may have some potential but their entire PR in the last few years was nothing short of a "catastrophe". They was focusing on Nvidia way to much and was trying to offer something competitive, which simply did not work out, so they even stopped competing. A very big failure... as they actually had some own potential, for example a steady and "on par with Nvidia" rasterization performance (Nvidia did not make any advancement there at the current gen) and as well a fine RT performance at the current generation. Instead of making something out of it... with good marketing... they chose to "nearly disappear" and let Nvidia take over almost everything that is still left... out of a just huge incompetence in "marketing terms".

So, ... not the best time for gamers, for sure... and the only affordable cards are in the mid range, so most of us play in "mid range performance", at best... which is suitable for me at 1080P at least. So, at least my Plasma TV still got several more years of making me happy.

Besides for those enthusiasts who want to get a 4090 instead... no... there is no affordable 4090... actually their prices was increasing more than what it used to be several years ago... 3000 now... but at least some of them are available.

Just forget it... the "high end market" is for a unknown period destroyed and what is left... out of it... is the AI market.

Guess i can be happy my 3090 TI is made with very high quality parts... as well the rest of the system including the almost invincible Plasma TV... so i can wait for a very long time for better stuff to arrive.

Thank you! Purrfect. It looks like they are all a rip-off.

MSI is clearly my most "recommended" brand, and in fact... my MB and my GPU are from MSI.

My 3090 TI is from MSI using their cooler design, yet the PCB parts are comparable to the Founders Edition with the industries best controller, which is one of the best combos i can think of. Indeed, on the 5000 series... i would still prefer a MSI product.

Does not seem like anyone unable or not willing to "ride the Nvidia hype (?) train" is missing much... unless they are masochistic in nature:
Serious issues with NVIDIA 572.16 Driver! Beware!

Besides, the 5090 is realistically... not on the paper, not a 2500 USD card... rather a 3500 USD card... and not even only in my country... almost everywhere. So i was right with my "crazy" predictions considering pricing. The 5080 is a 2000 USD card... as well at almost any place around the world... if people even get one that is.

JayzTwoCents seems to be pretty neutral in this surely not "one sided video".

The official price... sure... is 1999 for the 5090... we are faaaaaar away from this... and on the 5080 i dunno but surely as well faaaar away from the MSRP. 999 they say? Thanks for the joke... just forget it and dream a fairy tale.

As for me... my personal "red line" has surely been reached, on both cards, 5090 and 5080... means it can not handle any sufficient value for "what i realistically can get out of it" so... for me, as long as no very high price drops, a great aftermarket model and in general a suitable availability of those cards... i am out... this is "to much" to handle... even for a apparently "very wealthy" Swiss citizen.

As long as no big changes here... i do recommend simply to use "a upper middle class", which i already got... so no need for an upgrade. As well rather invest the saved money into a big enterprise HDD, so even more backups can be made.