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The weekly freebie Ep_c has during March 16-23 is
-Warhammer 40,000: Gladius - Relics of War (Base vgame alone)
("Game can be launched directly from the executable" according to PCG_mingWiki)


While G_G email newsletter offers the following discounts
during March 16-19:
-Warhammer 40,000: Gladius - Relics of War -92% (Base vgame)
And its DLCs:
-Craftworld Aeldari -45%
-Chaos Space Marines -45%
-Adepta Sororitas -10%
-T'au -45%
-Tyranids -45%
-Adeptus Mechanicus -25%


Coincidence?
Is it the first time?
Share your thoughts
Also discounted on Steam.

Coincidence?

Share your thoughts
Its Slitherine; they are heir to the throne of DLC-infested strategy games (king being of course Paradox). And...
Its Games Workshop; that only knows a world that will empty its wallet for unpainted plastic dolls.

They cannot comprehend how people would be confused about this. And it is on them, because publishers / developers decide what goes on sale on which platform and at what price.
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Shadowstalker16: Its Slitherine; they are heir to the throne of DLC-infested strategy games (king being of course Paradox). And...
Its Games Workshop; that only knows a world that will empty its wallet for unpainted plastic dolls.

They cannot comprehend how people would be confused about this. And it is on them, because publishers / developers decide what goes on sale on which platform and at what price.
'tis games for 'intelligent' peoples. Specifically the section where especially the young sprouts demand DLC. Invest in your future, ya know.

Just to portray another side of the coin, nuthing more dude so no worries, this ain't some life-threatening assault on your wisdom
This has put me into a serious quandary.

I grabbed the game for free from the other store last night, but I sometimes still buy at GOG if cheap enough, and with the special redeem email it is only $3.69 AUD, being a 92% discount. So it is very tempting.

I am all for supporting GOG and the DEV, especially if they release DRM-Free at GOG. Of course, the game is likely DRM-Free Lite at the other store.

However, six of the 13 DLCs available here at GOG, are also part of the discounts in the redeem email, but with them only ranging from 10% to 45%, it is still an additional cost of around $84 AUD ... and then there are the other seven DLC to get at some point. So all up, it isn't a cheap purchase, unless you ignore the DLC, and as we know, sometimes a game isn't so grand without the benefits the DLC give. I am very wary of being milked, especially as I know next to nothing about the DLC, and they are a lot to investigate. So even if they get seriously good discounts in the future, would they ever be reduced enough. If any of the DLC are expansions and give good bang for buck, then I don't mind paying a bit for them, but certainly not more than $10 AUD, and usually a fair bit less, and other DLCs would want to be significantly less in cost, maybe $1 or $2 AUD each. It is all done to merit of course, and what they add to the game.

In all the years getting free games from the other store, this has never happened before.
Post edited March 17, 2023 by Timboli
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Timboli: However, six of the 13 DLCs available here at GOG, are also part of the discounts in the redeem email, but with them only ranging from 10% to 45%, it is still an additional cost of around $84 AUD ... and then there are the other seven DLC to get at some point.
For this game, I would advise against buying the expansions at first.

Not that they are bad, they are actually very well done, but the base game is enough to get a lot of entertainment. And the expansions can be bought one at a time, only buying a new one when you get tired of the race added by the last one you bought.

As for the units expansion packs, I suggest not buying one before you already own all the races they add units for. It is frustrating to buy a units pack knowing that some units won't be usable because you lack the race expansion pack that enables them. If you buy the expansion packs in their release order, you wont get tricked by this. Otherwise, always check the store description of the units pack to see which rosters are expanded.

This way you might not get the whole pack cheaper (the expansions usually only get small discounts), but you can split the spending over several months, or even years. And you won't get overwhelmed trying to learn the mechanics of a dozen playable races at once.
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Melvinica: Also discounted on Steam.

Coincidence?

Share your thoughts
Lets include it then:
Syn-Spigot: -90%

And is not a coincidence (only compared the base vgame):

Historical Highest:
G_G: -90% 23Dec2022 to 02Jan2023
Syn-Spigot: -90% 23Jan to 30Jan2023; 22Dec2022 to 05Jan2023; 22Nov to 29Nov2022; 02Jun to 08Jun2022

Besides, my point goes about Highest discount here (-92%) vs Free... Beat that!
which IMO causes terrible noise to the vgamers really interested on this vgame
reason to ask thoughts. Who knows, maybe that marketing genius nailed it...
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Shadowstalker16: Its Slitherine; they are heir to the throne of DLC-infested strategy games (king being of course Paradox). And...
Its Games Workshop; that only knows a world that will empty its wallet for unpainted plastic dolls.

They cannot comprehend how people would be confused about this. And it is on them, because publishers / developers decide what goes on sale on which platform and at what price.
In my case, I try to avoid DLC based vgames as much as I can
(unless there are packs, or "season pass" to get them all
which require my case-by-case analysis anyway... yep, 2nd priority then)
Those with cosmetics or with +3 DLCs simply cause itch to me:
Is a model I dont like. I have read here in the forum people
providing good positive reasons I agree, but sorry, its me

As ignorant I am, I resist to believe devs/pubs are the only ones deciding sales & discounts,
I want to believe somehow stores must have decision power too

-And what about giveaways? How & who decides?

-And what about "special" sales like the email newsletter in this case?
Compared to Syn-Spigot, there is an extra -2%, which is low, but hey, it worths


About Ep_c weekly freebies, as far as I know (court case articles),
they pay upfront to Devs/Pubs: I wouldnt say no because some timing issue! :)
(And good for them! but I also wonder how many have reinvested
that "extra/amassed" money developing_new/improving/supporting vgames...
A whole animal that is better to discuss another time)
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Timboli: This has put me into a serious quandary.

I grabbed the game for free from the other store last night, but I sometimes still buy at GOG if cheap enough, and with the special redeem email it is only $3.69 AUD, being a 92% discount. So it is very tempting.

I am all for supporting GOG and the DEV, especially if they release DRM-Free at GOG. Of course, the game is likely DRM-Free Lite at the other store.

However, six of the 13 DLCs available here at GOG, are also part of the discounts in the redeem email, but with them only ranging from 10% to 45%, it is still an additional cost of around $84 AUD ... and then there are the other seven DLC to get at some point. So all up, it isn't a cheap purchase, unless you ignore the DLC, and as we know, sometimes a game isn't so grand without the benefits the DLC give. I am very wary of being milked, especially as I know next to nothing about the DLC, and they are a lot to investigate. So even if they get seriously good discounts in the future, would they ever be reduced enough. If any of the DLC are expansions and give good bang for buck, then I don't mind paying a bit for them, but certainly not more than $10 AUD, and usually a fair bit less, and other DLCs would want to be significantly less in cost, maybe $1 or $2 AUD each. It is all done to merit of course, and what they add to the game.

In all the years getting free games from the other store, this has never happened before.
Exactly, a quandary I wouldnt like to have. I hope you decide the best for you
As a DLC avert, I'd say to postpone it:
You are getting the base vgame for free and it seems to run without their client...
But thats my simplistic opinion because my stakes on the title are pretty low


And I also agree, to me is also the first time this free vs high discounted collision happens
I vaguely remember when the Ep_c weekly freebies started,
G_G sometimes offering some relevant discount immediately after
their freebie period ended, but that "sync" didnt last long

And another possible collision to mention, Dishonored:
29Dec2022 Epic: Dishonored1
07Jan2023 Amazon: Dishonored 2 here
02Feb2023 Epic: Dishonored3

Some speculated, Amazon ruined Epic plans because their original one was
30Dec2022 Dishonored2
31Dec2022 Dishonored3
Instead of that weird multistore schedule...

Anyway, the PC sales among stores seem to be somehow coordinated,
in terms of avoiding collisions/frictions...
Thats why I wanted to talk about this, even more if its Free vs 08% cost!
Thats a sick dilemma! And honestly, I dont like it, even if is not me experiencing it
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vv221: For this game, I would advise against buying the expansions at first.

Not that they are bad, they are actually very well done, but the base game is enough to get a lot of entertainment. And the expansions can be bought one at a time, only buying a new one when you get tired of the race added by the last one you bought.

As for the units expansion packs, I suggest not buying one before you already own all the races they add units for. It is frustrating to buy a units pack knowing that some units won't be usable because you lack the race expansion pack that enables them. If you buy the expansion packs in their release order, you wont get tricked by this. Otherwise, always check the store description of the units pack to see which rosters are expanded.

This way you might not get the whole pack cheaper (the expansions usually only get small discounts), but you can split the spending over several months, or even years. And you won't get overwhelmed trying to learn the mechanics of a dozen playable races at once.
Nice advice. I remember you presenting good reasons sometime ago
for one of those massive DLC vgames
I should give a try sometime, based on your suggestion,
really looks like there are vgames with a long successful life
due that model & not just leechers as my ignorant first sight thinks
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vv221: For this game, I would advise against buying the expansions at first.

Not that they are bad, they are actually very well done, but the base game is enough to get a lot of entertainment. And the expansions can be bought one at a time, only buying a new one when you get tired of the race added by the last one you bought.

As for the units expansion packs, I suggest not buying one before you already own all the races they add units for. It is frustrating to buy a units pack knowing that some units won't be usable because you lack the race expansion pack that enables them. If you buy the expansion packs in their release order, you wont get tricked by this. Otherwise, always check the store description of the units pack to see which rosters are expanded.

This way you might not get the whole pack cheaper (the expansions usually only get small discounts), but you can split the spending over several months, or even years. And you won't get overwhelmed trying to learn the mechanics of a dozen playable races at once.
Thanks for the information, much appreciated. :)

However, it seems like we have a different view on what constitutes an Expansion Pack. For instance most DLCs don't qualify, just being new weapons or clothes etc. A true Expansion Pack to my mind, contains new levels or maps and adds significantly to the game, and often is almost like another game or sequel ... Mission Pack by another name. I guess new races, is somewhat of a middle ground, between a simple DLC and Expansion Pack, at least to my mind.

Anyway, it sounds like some of teh DLC at least are well worth getting at some point, and of course I will need to own the game at GOG for that, to ensure DRM-Free, despite as the OP says the game at the other store is apparently what I call DRM-Free Lite. Thanks OP for that info.
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Zimerius: 'tis games for 'intelligent' peoples. Specifically the section where especially the young sprouts demand DLC. Invest in your future, ya know.

Just to portray another side of the coin, nuthing more dude so no worries, this ain't some life-threatening assault on your wisdom
I know them types, I see them in youtube comments and steam reviews flexing their intellect. Their most common comments are ''Sooo excited, more DLC plz'' or something similar.

I think the second part of your post whooshed over me though.
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tag+: In my case, I try to avoid DLC based vgames as much as I can
(unless there are packs, or "season pass" to get them all
which require my case-by-case analysis anyway... yep, 2nd priority then)
Those with cosmetics or with +3 DLCs simply cause itch to me:
Is a model I dont like. I have read here in the forum people
providing good positive reasons I agree, but sorry, its me

As ignorant I am, I resist to believe devs/pubs are the only ones deciding sales & discounts,
I want to believe somehow stores must have decision power too

-And what about giveaways? How & who decides?

-And what about "special" sales like the email newsletter in this case?
Compared to Syn-Spigot, there is an extra -2%, which is low, but hey, it worths

About Ep_c weekly freebies, as far as I know (court case articles),
they pay upfront to Devs/Pubs: I wouldnt say no because some timing issue! :)
(And good for them! but I also wonder how many have reinvested
that "extra/amassed" money developing_new/improving/supporting vgames...
A whole animal that is better to discuss another time)
Sorry for not clarifying but when I say that publishers / developers decide, I meant that they're the ones who eventually decide / sign off on it. I'm sure game store initiates them about promos and sales they wish to do but the ultimate choice is up to the publisher or developer.

Yes, Ep*c pays the devs for making their games free but what we see are only the games whose devs agreed to the offer. You might remember that Metro Exodus was once actually advertised as going to be free but the developer or publisher pulled out of the deal at the last minute because they thought that making it free so soon after release would hurt its sale prospects. I'm sure many other publishers and developers are similar and have an idea or roadmap about when and how low their games should be discounted.
Post edited March 18, 2023 by Shadowstalker16
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Shadowstalker16: I'm sure many other publishers and developers are similar and have an idea or roadmap about when and how low their games should be discounted.
No doubt, but we really don't know what agreements are offered.

A significant number of folk are going to grab a free game, especially a good one, and even if that store is offering a low percentage of return, that is often quite a significant profit.

One example would be 25%, which of course most game providers would not agree to normally. But when you couple that with as close as what amounts to a guarantee of many sales, 25% no longer works out as a small profit, especially when it is a digital product, where every sale reduces expenses and contributes to profits eventually ... there is no need to do another factory run and include that expense, as you would for a physical product. So you could say, every cent counts with digital ... to a point anyway.

So I guess most game providers would be likely to embrace that sort of an agreement, but not those who have delusions about what their game is worth, and that no-one should ever get it for less than that ... so an issue of agenda or ideology rather than profit. Worth is so subjective, and often seems to be more about what can be gotten away with, than any hard & fast measurement. If only everyone got paid inline with all the factors of engaging in work. Alas the world is full of disparities.
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Shadowstalker16: I'm sure many other publishers and developers are similar and have an idea or roadmap about when and how low their games should be discounted.
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Timboli: No doubt, but we really don't know what agreements are offered.

A significant number of folk are going to grab a free game, especially a good one, and even if that store is offering a low percentage of return, that is often quite a significant profit.

One example would be 25%, which of course most game providers would not agree to normally. But when you couple that with as close as what amounts to a guarantee of many sales, 25% no longer works out as a small profit, especially when it is a digital product, where every sale reduces expenses and contributes to profits eventually ... there is no need to do another factory run and include that expense, as you would for a physical product. So you could say, every cent counts with digital ... to a point anyway.

So I guess most game providers would be likely to embrace that sort of an agreement, but not those who have delusions about what their game is worth, and that no-one should ever get it for less than that ... so an issue of agenda or ideology rather than profit. Worth is so subjective, and often seems to be more about what can be gotten away with, than any hard & fast measurement. If only everyone got paid inline with all the factors of engaging in work. Alas the world is full of disparities.
To add to that, I'd even say that it helps the industry to an extent in the long-run. Ep*c offering GTAV for free probably made a lot of people upgrade from piracy, and anyone claiming their weekly free games will have a huge library of quite a lot of good games that were acquired legally and offer the convenience of a client. A fair percentage of those people are people who will no longer want to pirate stuff because getting games legally has become a norm and a convenience for them.

Another thing with the EGS is that they can offer a good deal even if they take a larger cut because many engines use UE5 and they can lower their royalty amounts if the developers choose to accept a deal from them.