(I am sure I've said this many times before, also to you in these SW discussions, but who cares if I am repeating myself... After all, this whole site is about old games you get to replay now.)

To me the main reason not to like the prequels, at least the two first ones, was that they didn't have much of room for any surprise elements or big mysteries as you already knew who of the main characters will be alive in the sequels, how each person will turn out, who is evil while pretending to be something else, who is "Your Father(tm)" etc. The only thing to watch was to see how each person becomes what they were in the later episodes, and it wasn't really handled that interestingly (unlike e.g. in Joker which I saw recently, that I consider as a good movie, good interesting dark drama).

Ep1 was like a children's movie with a kid protagonist (Anakin) which saves the day by accident in different situations, like some of the worst Spielberg movies. Stupid stuff. And yes that comedic sidekick was just awful, seems they just had to come up with something, and that was the best they could come up with.

Ep2 used so much time just depicting the "love story" between Anakin and Padme, acted horribly. Yeah yeah you hate the sand because it goes into your asscrack, what a pickup line...

And if I recall correctly, they didn't have much of exciting and massive-scale combat scenes like later episodes had.

And I don't really like Ewan McGregor as an actor, especially in those movie. Meh. I would have preferred even Adam Sandler or Nicolas Cage in the role of Obi Wan, then it would have been at least an interesting character.

Nicolas Cage reminds me: I guess the two Ghost Rider movies (2007 and 2011), are considered as bad movies? Especially the sequel ("Spirit of Vengeance") has quite a low score on imdb.com.

Well, I found them both quite entertaining. Cage was good enough in the role, and I found the whole protagonist quite fascinating (an immortal demon from the depths of the hell whose day-job is to scare people and drag bad people to hell).

And I liked the visuals how the Ghost Rider himself and his encounters with even badder baddies were presented. Nice stuff.

I guess the character is (again) based on some comics book, but I am not aware of any such so I had no reservations like "This is not like he is in the comic books?!? This is trash!". I don't care how Nicolas Cage is in the comic books.

If anything, comic books are evil. As a kid, I got as a present from my big brother a comic book of the movie "Alien" (the first alien movie). So the movie was the source for this comic and not the other way around, but that is irrelevant.

The comic spoiled the movie for me. When I saw the movie many years later (when I was old enough to see it), it was such a letdown how weak the action and many of the special effects were in the movie, compared to how they were depicted in the comic book.

While in general the story was the same in the comic book and the movie, in the comic book the action seemed much more intense, violence was much more bloody, and e.g. the rocket blast at the end how Ripley destroys the alien for good, in the comic book it was a big fiery blast of fire that burned the shit out of the alien lifeform, while in the movie it was some weak special effect of a... big light and some spraying water, trying to look like something that would come out of a rocket's arse? Weak.

While I am on the roll... Is "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice" considered as a bad movie?
At least I remember people whining about the movie, but on imdb.com it has a mediocre (not very low) score of 6.4. Not a good or bad score, just mediocre.

Either way, I enjoyed that movie, I'd say even more than most other Batman movies I've seen (including the Heath Ledger Joker movie) or any Superman movies.

I originally had reservations about the movie because the whole idea of a normal human Batman hero fighting a godlike Superman just felt so stupid, I wondered beforehand how that would work out... I admit I didn't quite understand many parts of the story... but I just found the setting and visuals and demonstration quite good in that movie. Scenes like:

- In the beginning Bruce Wayne watching when Superman is fighting... something... high in the skies, causing havoc around him. It looked magical, like gods fighting above humans.

- The vision or dream that Bruce Wayne has where he is checking some truck or warehouse, and some winged creatures attack him, and Superman kills his team members with his laser vision...

- The fight where the white-eyed Batman keeps hitting Superman in the face, while suddenly Superman regains his powers and the hits don't have any effect anymore.

Little things and scenes like that made the movie enjoyable to me, much more than e.g. any of the Christian Bale Batman movies (I've grown to dislike Bale as an actor as well; well he was quite ok in e.g. Big Short and of course American Psycho and Equilibrium).

I also forgot to mention Street Fighter 2's 1994 live action movie.

It's so bad, it's good.

The Phantasm movies, especially Phantasm II. The unlikely heroes face evil instead of just running away like in other terror movies. The b-series flavour is very charming. This is a hugely profitable series of movies, they are made with love and they are honest about what they offer. The fantastic and SF elements are suggestive. Very lovely overall.

Freejack is a great example of a "bad" movie that still has a cool sci-fi look and setup that makes me love it. The blu-ray release looks great, too.

The thread title is an oxymoron. By definition, the movie can't be bad if you like it.

Love 'em. Great films.

I also think Tommy Wiseau's The Room is a great movie. No joke. I'm not saying it doesn't have mind bogglingly inept and stupid aspects, and I haven't even seen it all the way through, but we watched it with a few friends and drank some vodka and ended up talking about abusive relationships and parents and more because of the film. It was a great night and I think that movie has a lot of merit.

There's plenty of good bad films I've seen I can't think of right now. Undefeatable is great. Oh! Dungeons & Dragons is utter shit, and people don't seem to think much of the sequel, but I thought Dungeons & Dragons 2: Wrath of the Dragon God was an actually good movie.

The Mortal Kombat movies were quite entertaining.

Guess what? I never got to watch it. They mentioned a lot that Mick Jagger appeared prominently as a secondary character (the antagonist, I think)
I give to it that I got to the end of the movie and it did not make me want to doze off. This means, way better than a few superhero movies.

The SW prequels it seems are considered to be varying degrees of awful by a lot of fans, so in that respect the prequels for me then, since I love all three.

I think there are dozens of us xP

It's funny to see how people interpret the topic in two completely different ways. One group talks about movies most other people consider bad, but they personally like. The others, like me, see it as a topic about movies we ourselves recognise as bad, but still enjoy for various reasons.

The Poe cycle. Also, X: The Man with the X-ray Eyes (1963) felt in the line of classic b-series SF movies of the fifties.

Science fiction, double feature...

Frankly, I am not a big fan of Star Wars, I don't think I saw any of the movies until they were shown here in the national TV back in 1986 or so. But ep4 and ep5 had quite good moments and good story telling, and the Deathstar combat and Walkers combat scenes were just great.

So my dislike for the prequels is not really related to me being a fan of the SW or something.

In my opinion you can approach is as e.g.

1. The movie has a low rating (e.g. in imdb.com) and was possibly panned by critics, but you enjoyed it anyway.

2. You recognize the movie is trash and not very well made, but still somehow you enjoy it.

Or something else, dunno... I know Revenge of the Ninja (1983) is not a very deep movie and many parts of it are quite bad and it is all so predictable and cliche and all the actors are very bad (well, maybe the mafia boss is ok), but I love it anyway.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086192/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

Another movie I love...

The Phantom

I'm a sucker for Lee Falk's comic strip character, and even though the movie is complete cheese, I enjoyed it.