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GR00T: One thing that could be a bonus would be if Galaxy automatically updates your backed-up installers when they get patches/updates....
True, that would be a neat feature and there's really a need for that, hence gogrepo.
When it becomes mandatory,then I will stop depositing money in their coffers.
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Stig79: I don't mind it one bit. BUT it should remain optional.
Exactly this.
I think GOG is trying to now fill the "niche" of being actual competition to Steam. Like others have said, I say Galaxy's okay until it becomes a mandatory download like Steam, and I think GOG realizes this would be business suicide (at least currently; we don't know what may happen in the future). I still don't really know what advantages the Downloader had over Galaxy - was the download speed any better? Was the Downloader just simpler to use? I've heard that Galaxy can be thought of as a glorified Downloader if need be.

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Tauto: When it becomes mandatory,then I will stop depositing money in their coffers.
If you're actually buying games here regularly, then you're a little more okay by my standards. :P (I'm probably alone in that thought, though.)
Post edited April 29, 2017 by tfishell
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tfishell: I think GOG is trying to now fill the "niche" of being actual competition to Steam. Like others have said, I say Galaxy's okay until it becomes a mandatory download like Steam, and I think GOG realizes this would be business suicide (at least currently; we don't know what may happen in the future). I still don't really know what advantages the Downloader had over Galaxy - was the download speed any better? Was the Downloader just simpler to use? I've heard that Galaxy can be thought of as a glorified Downloader if need be.

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Tauto: When it becomes mandatory,then I will stop depositing money in their coffers.
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tfishell: If you're actually buying games here regularly, then you're a little more okay by my standards. :P (I'm probably alone in that thought, though.)
If you believe anything that dip shit posts then I have a bridge to sell you. :P
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tfishell: I think GOG is trying to now fill the "niche" of being actual competition to Steam. Like others have said, I say Galaxy's okay until it becomes a mandatory download like Steam, and I think GOG realizes this would be business suicide (at least currently; we don't know what may happen in the future). I still don't really know what advantages the Downloader had over Galaxy - was the download speed any better? Was the Downloader just simpler to use? I've heard that Galaxy can be thought of as a glorified Downloader if need be.

If you're actually buying games here regularly, then you're a little more okay by my standards. :P (I'm probably alone in that thought, though.)
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tinyE: If you believe anything that dip shit posts then I have a bridge to sell you. :P
I'm coming at it from a different viewpoint than you (slightly open-minded), because I haven't needed to rumble with him yet.
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tinyE: If you believe anything that dip shit posts then I have a bridge to sell you. :P
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tfishell: I'm coming at it from a different viewpoint than you (slightly open-minded), because I haven't needed to rumble with him yet.
Let him troll you for three years and you'll change your tone.

Also, he is good friends with some of the most notorious scammers here so on a serious note, I SERIOUSLY doubt he paid for anything he has.

NES probably gave him most of his games. That's why he praised him in his forum title for so long.
Hard to push what doesn't exist.

Especially seeing as I'm on Fedora 25.
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justanoldgamer: I personally don't get why some peoples are so attached to the installer, I tried it in the past and I find it much more convenient to download from the library.
I find it handy for large games that have multi-part installation packages, and it's also nice to be able to put multiple downloads in the queue. Probably some third-party things that can do the same, but their downloader does a decent job of it. If it's a small or single download, then browser is a good choice for me.

it's nice to have three options. Hopefully some future change won't essentially knock the Downloader out of commission.
To me, Galaxy is essentially an application that is a web browser for gog.com with some bonus features that aren't easily (or possible) to do from within a webpage (at this point in time, sol-date 20170428). IOW, I can use any web browser for viewing my account at GOG's website or I can use GOG's application that has a web browser builtin for viewing its website (and no other websites).

As such, I simply use the default web browser (Safari) that came with the computer because its accessibility features seem more, er, accessible than other web browsers, especially more so than GOG's specialized web browser (within Galaxy) for their website.

For now, I'm using Galaxy for the same reason I used to use iTunes: I don't like the Finder or any other tedious file management software. I liked iTunes because I could associate information with songs, movies, digital books, and so forth without having to create a new directory by hand and a new document with notes and name it all and keep track of it all myself. iTunes enabled all of that association with its own database and providing an interface for the data. It was definitely limited by what text fields it offered, yet for me it was a major step beyond the micromanagement required when using multiple applications such as the Finder and word processing applications for keeping notes (lyrics, dates, singers, writers, etc.) about everything. (Disclaimer: I don't use iTunes anymore because I've lost interest in those other mediums that it manages and don't keep such stuff anymore; it's probably been a couple years. As for general file management, I now tend to use emacs and its "dired" command, it feels so much more capable and much less effort than any drag-n-drop application.)

I don't know anything about Steam. The one time I had gotten something (for free from within another game) I decided not to use the Steam key because I read in Steam's documentation that their application had to be running at the same time as the games. To me that meant wasting computing resources that I didn't believe my computer had available at the time. Besides, running two applications for the sake of one of those applications seems like a terribly inefficient approach, especially when there already is one application always running: the operating system. Just yucky. After decades of computer use, I don't like complications when having to troubleshoot what goes wrong, and something always does. Same reason I don't use web browser plug-ins or extension, they just become one more thing to troubleshoot.

With iTunes it was an all-in-one application, and admittedly that in itself could be consider a conglomeration of complexities. The convenience was knowing it was that application rather than having to figure which application or add-on (or both) is the problem when troubleshooting.

I look forward to Galaxy becoming more like iTunes, especially along the lines of personalized database and searching. In iTunes, it was possible to declare a different name for a song (or any item) for use when sorting it. For example, if the title started with "the" and for some reason that was not desirable as the first word when sorting, then a different title could be declared for sorting it without having to change the actual title. On the other hand, that could be done for each item as desired so something like "A Boy and his Blob" could be left alone. No over-arching algorithm that had to please everyone, but instead a flexible means for adjustment that I could do for myself, and no one else had to agree with me.

Anyway, it's clear to me as long as GOG provides account access to the games files by the means of their website, then Galaxy will clearly be optional because Galaxy itself has a built-in web browser to access the website for that same purpose.

I prefer modifying my view of information from the World Wide Web (à la intent of CSS 2.x for accessibility), and I believe the web browser developers these past couple of decades (over 20 years!) should have been supporting such an approach by making it easier to annotate and associate (and usefully cache) webpages from the WWW. Instead, nothing from web browser developers but novelty and performance rather than at the very least something like iTunes, but preferably way beyond what mere iTunes has provided for personal files.

As such, I'm hoping Galaxy will be more useful at least along the lines of what I experienced with iTunes because for now Galaxy fails as a useful web browser more so than regular web browsers (all of which to me are failures for viewing the WWW). At least with Safari I can at least easily set a stylesheet for which I don't have to dig around within its application resources, unlike most other web browsers. (And no, extensions are like plug-ins, they aren't really forward compatible because their developers are third-party (which means: it gets done much later, if ever at all), especially because extensions/plug-ins/applications/etc. aren't possible for development by the individuals that use them without the individual having to become part computer engineer themselves.)
Post edited April 29, 2017 by thomq
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justanoldgamer: I personally don't get why some peoples are so attached to the installer, I tried it in the past and I find it much more convenient to download from the library.
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HereForTheBeer: I find it handy for large games that have multi-part installation packages, and it's also nice to be able to put multiple downloads in the queue. Probably some third-party things that can do the same, but their downloader does a decent job of it. If it's a small or single download, then browser is a good choice for me.

it's nice to have three options. Hopefully some future change won't essentially knock the Downloader out of commission.
In Windows 7 with Firefox I can have 7 consecutive downloads simultaneously, I probably could get more with a config change somewhere.
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USERNAME:Pajama#Q&_^Q&Q#GROUP:4#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:22#Q&_^Q&Q#Personally I do not use Galaxy nor do I have any desire to do so but I do understand that many people do. That's fine except that GOG have started dropping Galaxy stuff into their games now which can cause problems if you don't have Galaxy installed. Two examples off the top of my head are Victor Vran and Eisenwald: Blood of November - these games will not run if they are denied access to connect to Galaxy/internet (eg. blocked via a firewall).#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:22#Q&_^Q&Q#
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I should not have issues running any game because I choose not to use Galaxy. To be able to play Victor Vran without it crashing and without it connecting to the internet is to make sure VV is denied access via my firewall and then turn off my network connection before even starting the game. If I just block it via my firewall (without turning off my Network connection) the game will not even start and just crashes. I've contacted support and was told that if I install Galaxy all will be well, no other advice was given :( Blocking access via my firewall to programs that do not require internet access should be no reason for a game to crash and burn.

The same thing happens with Eisenwald: Blood of November and it now looks like Expeditions:Vikings is having the same problem for non Galaxy users. See here - http://www.gog.com/forum/expeditions_series/problem_internet_connection_required_to_play_ev
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Netaro1000: Before I start, please note that I'm not complaining or trying to be rude, I'm just a little worried.

So ever since Gog Galaxy launched it has appeared all over the website, and that's fine, of course you gotta advertise your new creation but what worries me is that it looks like they are almost trying to hide the old Gog Downloader. First of all the gog downloader links are hidden inside the More menu on games. And there's also no clear way of getting to the Gog Downloader installer page. ([url=https://www.gog.com/downloader ]https://www.gog.com/downloader[/url]) New users probably don't even know Gog Downloader exists.

What drew me to gog in the first place was their unique way of handling online transactions, you just bought the game and clicked the big green Download button and Gog Downloader would start and you would have your .exe file in no time. I know the old way of downloading is still there but I'm worried that even though Gog Galaxy is advertised as "the optional client" it sure doesn't feel like it.
They're definitely making GOG Downloader hard to find and Galaxy easy to find on purpose because they want people to use Galaxy and not Downloader. This way people new to the site wont even know Downloader ever existed and will naturally choose Galaxy. Not that that is a bad thing either because the majority of people most likely want a gaming client like Galaxy, and presenting multiple options can be confusing to someone who doesn't know the difference. Additionally they've declared Downloader as unsupported a very long time ago so they surely don't want to advertise it when they're trying to phase it out. By burying it and the links that don't work half the time deep in the website, they reduce confusion to new users however old-schoolers who are aware of it can still find it even if it isn't easy to navigate to. Kind of annoying for those who need to use Downloader or just prefer it that way.

Galaxy is still optional, it's just not using Galaxy at all has become and will continue to become less convenient over time. As long as they keep the website direct-downloads available though there is another option still and Galaxy is anything but mandatory.

As of Galaxy 1.2.6 they've restored the ability to configure where downloads go so that resolves one major issue that 1.2.x previous releases had with downloading so more of us can use it now once again. As time goes on Downloader will vanish along with the links for it. GOG says they're in no rush to do that right away, but all of the communication you get from GOG support is scripted heavily more or less a cut and paste cookie-cutter job that says "Please use Galaxy." and forces you to respond back demanding they fix the broken Downloader links which they eventually do, but it gets tiring, even moreso if you WANTED to use Galaxy but could not due to bugs or other problems which is why you were using Downloader in the first place.

Downloader itself serves a purpose for now but it isn't terribly reliable either due to being unsupported and the dead link problem. The only viable solution going forward as a similar replacement will be a community made downloader that works similar to GOG Downloader but which uses the Galaxy APIs behind the scenes instead of the legacy Downloader API. Unfortunately GOG has not documented the Galaxy APIs so that third parties could make their own clients yet as they promised they would do several years ago. That made some pretty reasonable sense when Galaxy was in beta because the APIs could change frequently in incompatible ways as a natural part of the development process, but now that Galaxy is a released product out of beta if they are following standard release engineering practices the API will be versioned and any incompatible changes to it will be reserved for major API overhauls, and only minor enhancements and new features added in minor version bumps to the API which are backward compatible and don't break anything.

So now they just need to stay true to their word and document their presumably now "stable" API so that the community can create custom downloaders/clients as they promised would be possible. If they do document the API as promised and put it out there, then this will be a major benefit unique to the GOG.com service which is a good selling feature IMHO. There will be the official client, and various unofficial ones that meet certain niche user needs that GOG doesn't have to deal with themselves as the community can easily write their own solutions for specific needs.

Only time will tell if they step up to the plate and honour their word on documenting the API. If and when they do, it should be completely publicly available too, not behind some paywall or corporate filter of any kind like the existing developer and affiliate programs seems to be. I believe they will do this, but I'm not so confident about the timing, and if anyone asks them they'll only likely respond with "soon(TM)" or "yes, we plan to do that in the future" or some other non-committal time frame.
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Netaro1000: What do you guys think of the Gog team pushing the galaxy client?
They burned a lot of money on it and pissed off a lot of users by making everyone beta testers for poorly functioning software. Personally I prefer not to think about it though. :D
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HereForTheBeer: I find it handy for large games that have multi-part installation packages, and it's also nice to be able to put multiple downloads in the queue. Probably some third-party things that can do the same, but their downloader does a decent job of it. If it's a small or single download, then browser is a good choice for me.

it's nice to have three options. Hopefully some future change won't essentially knock the Downloader out of commission.
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justanoldgamer: In Windows 7 with Firefox I can have 7 consecutive downloads simultaneously, I probably could get more with a config change somewhere.
The one-at-a-time queue is helpful in my case since our connection is very slow. Instead of losing several simultaneous downloads due to a blip in the connection, at worst I'd lose one. But I suspect most customers don't have the lousy speed that we do. For us, queuing works well.