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Posted July 30, 2015
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Atlantico: Only catch is... what he says is not true. Anyone can downgrade from Windows 10 to whatever Windows version they upgraded from until the end-of-life for that OS. So until 2020 for Windows 7.

Goddammit people, stop with this internet voodoo advice. "I heard it on teh intarwebs so it must be true!!!111!"
God damn it... :D Is there some official statement somewhere about this?

What you say is what I was expecting it to be, considering my Win8 upgrade did not invalidate my Win7 license either. But as said, if I have to leave Win7 behind for good for accepting this, then it is a no-go most probably. As said, Windows 10 will come preloaded on my future PCs anyway.

So I presume that one-month time limit to downgrade is only for that automatic downgrade option?
Posted July 30, 2015
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Atlantico: Only catch is... what he says is not true. Anyone can downgrade from Windows 10 to whatever Windows version they upgraded from until the end-of-life for that OS. So until 2020 for Windows 7.

Goddammit people, stop with this internet voodoo advice. "I heard it on teh intarwebs so it must be true!!!111!"
Microsoft states otherwise:

"Yes, while we think you will love all the features of Windows 10, you will have one month after upgrading to revert back to the previous version of Windows on your device."

That's directly from Microsoft's FAQ about the upgrade.

Also, I just came across this:

"If something major happens to the device that requires something as monumental such as a motherboard change (basically turning it into a new computer), Windows 10 will require re-activation – which will require you to purchase a license. This is what Microsoft means when it says "life of the device." Additionally, you can't transfer a license to a new device."

I've read something similar to this from multiple sources now. So, what this means is that, if I wanted to upgrade, I would turn all five of my expensive, full versions of Windows 7 & 8.1 Pro into Windows 10 Pro OEM copies.

That's a massive no-thank-you from me. Since that's the case, I'll be passing on Windows 10 indefinitely.
Post edited July 30, 2015 by Qwertyman
Posted July 30, 2015
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timppu: Really? Then it is definitely a good thing I asked, because it means I will definitely turn down this offer. I do want the ability to go back to Windows 7 at will at any time, if I feel like it.

Oddly, I got a different impression when I asked it here in this forum before, ie. that you retain both your Windows 7 (or 8) and 10 license for that same PC, and can switch back and forth between them if you want (through clean install at least). Similarly like when I bought the cheap Windows 8 Pro upgrade, it didn't invalidate my old Windows 7 license. I could even had them both installed side by side on the same PC.

If what you say is true, then I will not use Windows 10 until it comes preloaded on my future PC, which I will buy in 1-10 years from now, depending on shit and stuff. My current Windows 7 PC will remain as a Windows 7 PC (and I have that Win 8 Pro license for it too, just in case).
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Atlantico: Only catch is... what he says is not true. Anyone can downgrade from Windows 10 to whatever Windows version they upgraded from until the end-of-life for that OS. So until 2020 for Windows 7.

Goddammit people, stop with this internet voodoo advice. "I heard it on teh intarwebs so it must be true!!!111!"
Not according to Windows itself (see attached).
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Post edited July 30, 2015 by cogadh
Posted July 30, 2015
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Atlantico: Only catch is... what he says is not true. Anyone can downgrade from Windows 10 to whatever Windows version they upgraded from until the end-of-life for that OS. So until 2020 for Windows 7.

Goddammit people, stop with this internet voodoo advice. "I heard it on teh intarwebs so it must be true!!!111!"
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Qwertyman: Microsoft states otherwise:

"Yes, while we think you will love all the features of Windows 10, you will have one month after upgrading to revert back to the previous version of Windows on your device."

That's directly from Microsoft's FAQ about the upgrade.

Also, I just came across this:

"If something major happens to the device that requires something as monumental such as a motherboard change (basically turning it into a new computer), Windows 10 will require re-activation – which will require you to purchase a license. This is what Microsoft means when it says "life of the device." Additionally, you can't transfer a license to a new device."

I've read something similar to this from multiple sources now. So, what this means is that, if I wanted to upgrade, I would turn all five of my expensive, full versions of Windows 7 & 8.1 Pro into Windows 10 Pro OEM copies.

That's a massive no-thank-you from me. Since that's the case, I'll be passing on Windows 10 indefinitely.
I'm having trouble with VirtualBox, it insists on changing the hell out of the hardware when you export the appliance and import it. Very, annoying. I wish they'd come up with a better system for identifying identical VMs than the thing they provide to the OS as it makes it very difficult to clone and restore installations.
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Atlantico: Only catch is... what he says is not true. Anyone can downgrade from Windows 10 to whatever Windows version they upgraded from until the end-of-life for that OS. So until 2020 for Windows 7.

Goddammit people, stop with this internet voodoo advice. "I heard it on teh intarwebs so it must be true!!!111!"
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cogadh: Not according to Windows itself (see attached).
Right, but pro versions come with downgrade rights, the home versions don't. So, for home versions what you linked to applies, but for pro versions it doesn't.

Thankfully MS saw the light and there are fewer editions of 10 floating about than there were with 7.
Post edited July 30, 2015 by hedwards
Posted July 30, 2015
Can't activate my Surface Pro 2 after a clean install. Stupid crap.
Posted July 30, 2015
Previous licenses revoked? WTF? Not so free after all.
Posted July 30, 2015
its a trap !!

im still going to sit this one out microsoft
thanks for the giveaway but no thanks

it took me 4 years to go to vista in 2010 and another 3 years to go to 7 in 2013
Posted July 30, 2015
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monkeydelarge: Previous licenses revoked? WTF? Not so free after all.
It appears so, which means that if you have trouble activating it, you can't update to 10, which means that you're fucked.

Sometimes I think it really is best to just pirate all your software, all roads lead that way anyways.
Posted July 30, 2015
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snowkatt: its a trap !!

im still going to sit this one out microsoft
thanks for the giveaway but no thanks

it took me 4 years to go to vista in 2010 and another 3 years to go to 7 in 2013
AHAHAHAHA yeah!

Maybe it's like Microsoft knows that after a month of using Windows 10, you will want to go back to Windows 7...
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Post edited July 30, 2015 by monkeydelarge
Posted July 30, 2015
Upgrading does not revoke your previous product key(s). Wherever you got that from it is totally incorrect. You can return to the earlier version after upgrading.

Certain upgrade paths may result in Windows using a different product key. This is normal.
Posted July 30, 2015
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Atlantico: Only catch is... what he says is not true. Anyone can downgrade from Windows 10 to whatever Windows version they upgraded from until the end-of-life for that OS. So until 2020 for Windows 7.

Goddammit people, stop with this internet voodoo advice. "I heard it on teh intarwebs so it must be true!!!111!"
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cogadh: Not according to Windows itself (see attached).
Look. It's kinda simple, Windows 10 allows one month for you to decide whether or not to downgrade by pressing a button.

That has nothing to do with the licence.

The licence is actually connected to your hardware, your motherboard BIOS. You can not press a button and revert to the older Windows after a month, no - but you can wipe your drive and install the previous version of Windows at *any* time. The licence is still valid. Be it home or pro version of Windows or OEM. Makes no difference.

Stop the voodoo!
Posted July 30, 2015
If you want to go back to the previous version after that time you can download official installation media for Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 (this Windows 8.1 installer also accepts product keys from the original Windows 8).
Post edited July 30, 2015 by Arkose
Posted July 30, 2015
I actually tried to install Windows 10 and got this ridiculous error message.

http://images.bidnessetc.com/content/uploads/images/source5/3dtq5qp.png

If this is any indication of what to expect from the new version, I'm going to hold off on Windows 10 for a long, long time.
Posted July 30, 2015
Surprise surprise:
Windows 10 is a freaking privacy disaster
Jupiter Broadcasting, Tech Talk Today, Episode 198

Changing the privacy policy a few days after release (kicks in on saturday to be exact) is a nicely diabolical plan, M$. ;)
Just shows how important the mandatory updates are, makes changing the rules so much easier.
Posted July 30, 2015
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Lin545: Here is my small story. But please no flamewars or thread derailing. My first Windows was 3.11, last one - Vista. Switched to Linux in 2008 and have not been looking back, for many many reasons.
I got totally fed up with Windows around Vista so I decided to ditch it 100%. Instead I got myself a personal assistant called Lydia. She's a former bikini model who, at 23, felt she was too old for the business. Now I just tell her what I need done, she goes into a room, does stuff - I don't know what but I get the results emailed to my iPhone. I also use my phone to watch her playing the games I'm interested in on Twitch. In the morning she slips out of my bed and makes me breakfast. Mmmm, bacon.

So totally agree, Windows is for suckers.
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