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Posted January 06, 2013
Hi,
I wonder whether the games on GOG are real Apple Macintosh originals or just emulated Windows versions of the games? In other threads I could read that I need WINE to run games. This means obviously GOG uses an emulator for the Windows versions of the game. Are there real Macintosh versions of games on GOG?
Post edited January 06, 2013 by Jokel
Posted January 06, 2013
It's a mixture, really. A lot of PC games on GOG require emulators such as DOSbox and ScummVM to run. So on Mac you'd almost certainly be looking at the Mac versions of those emulators being installed along with the games and being set up to run the game as if it was native.

The newer indie games probably all run natively as they have Mac versions available elsewhere.

The Wine thread you saw pre-dates GOG's support of Macs and was the only way Mac users could run these games at the time.
Posted January 06, 2013
what Navagon said also one has to keep in mind with older games that had mac versions, those versions are incompatible with the newer Mac os and hardware.
Post edited January 06, 2013 by DCT
Posted January 06, 2013
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Navagon:
I think he's asking if they're the original Apple ][ and such versions, as opposed to the DOS versions.

Which no, to my knowledge, they're all DOS. Even the ones people wish were Amiga.

EDIT: Wait. I have no idea what he's asking now. "Apple Macintosh originals or just emulated Windows versions of the games" is where I got confused.

Well, if he is asking what you said, then you've said it better than I would have.
Post edited January 06, 2013 by johnki
Posted January 06, 2013
I know that real old versions of games that never been released for any Apple platform will run in some kind of emulator. But my question goes in direction of native Macintosh versions (not Apple II) of the games. As in this thread mentioned, PPC versions will not run on today Intel Macs, I also already know that. But exists there original Apple Macintosh versions with an Mac emulator or are all games on GOG Windows versions with an emulator?

For me, it makes no sense to buy Windows versions to emulate it on my Mac if there was an original Apple Macintosh release. To sell this as Macintosh games is not very fair-minded.
Posted January 06, 2013
Ahh. Thanks for clarifying.

Well, I'll direct you to Navagon's post then. Pretty much every Mac supported game (EDIT: except newer games) I'm aware of on here was originally a DOS game, so it should be a non-issue.

EDIT2: Ah, there are games like Fallout. Not really sure. It says it works on Mac 10.6.8 and above, which is post Intel card usage. Should be fine.
Post edited January 06, 2013 by johnki
Posted January 06, 2013
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Jokel: I know that real old versions of games that never been released for any Apple platform will run in some kind of emulator. But my question goes in direction of native Macintosh versions (not Apple II) of the games. As in this thread mentioned, PPC versions will not run on today Intel Macs, I also already know that. But exists there original Apple Macintosh versions with an Mac emulator or are all games on GOG Windows versions with an emulator?

For me, it makes no sense to buy Windows versions to emulate it on my Mac if there was an original Apple Macintosh release. To sell this as Macintosh games is not very fair-minded.
Ahh then in that case yes but that is only for newer game like say FTL, The Witcher 2, Botanicula, and so on that have a actual working mac version then GOG will have it.
Older games like Fallout and Populous will just be the Dos versions running under a stand alone version of Boxer(a dos emulator) for Mac
Posted January 06, 2013
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Jokel: For me, it makes no sense to buy Windows versions to emulate it on my Mac if there was an original Apple Macintosh release. To sell this as Macintosh games is not very fair-minded.
It shouldn't make any difference, unless there is a difference in quality between the two versions. Both would require emulation now. So potential quality issues aside, it's a non issue. Plus, Macs are basically PCs with Mac OS installed on them now. So the PC version would be closer to a modern Mac anyway. For instance, things like being able to right click.
Posted January 06, 2013
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Navagon: It shouldn't make any difference, unless there is a difference in quality between the two versions. Both would require emulation now. So potential quality issues aside, it's a non issue.
Although, I would like having the Mac version of SimCity 2000 for the higher resolutions it can handle compared to the DOS version (hmm... I wonder if it can run under Executor, I should go find my disks and check).
For instance, things like being able to right click.
Mac OS has had native right-click support since the release of Mac OS 8 in... 1997, was it? While Windows and other operating systems have had it longer, it's far from recent on the Mac platform.

But yes, the OS X of today has as much similarity to System 7, both hardware and software wise, as Windows 7 does to Amiga Workbench 3.0.
Posted January 06, 2013
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Miaghstir: Although, I would like having the Mac version of SimCity 2000 for the higher resolutions it can handle compared to the DOS version (hmm... I wonder if it can run under Executor, I should go find my disks and check).
If that doesn't work an alternate solution would be to acquire an edition that includes a native Windows 95 version (e.g. Special Edition); this has the same resolution functionality and apparently runs fine in Wine.

Unfortunately GOG's Special Edition reportedly doesn't include the Windows 95 version for some reason so you'd need to track down a real retail disc to do this.
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