Gazoinks: Aye, Troika and Obsidian. Kings of buggy games. Though it's not entirely their fault. It's more extreme ambition combined with publishers who actually want to see a product at some point. So not selling until it's fixed isn't necessarily plausible.

orcishgamer: While that's partly true, they don't get that excuse, a lot of devs are under the same pressure and manage to do a much, much better job.

gameon: All i was trying to say was that if old games are so messy that they cant be completed, maybe they shouldn't be sold until they are fixed.