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Faithful: Thanks guys.
I went ahead and bought Armada 2526 and I will pick up Distant Worlds in about a month I think.
Thus far I think Armada is a decent game. IT is not going to win any awards I do not think, but it is a good 4x game. I like turn based so it well for me.

I am glad you like it. Have fun.
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Al1: *In the year 252...6...*
I'll show myself out.
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trusteft: The game is a "sequel" to a much older game Armada 2525, released in 1991 for DOS.
Yes, that doesn't help with the song at all, but I just thought I would share that bit of info.

YES!! I feel vindicated! Although im sure I don't know why.
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trusteft: The thing with real time in grand strategy games is, I find it stupid.
Same with the Europa Universalis series which IMO would be much better if they were turn based.
If the game requires the player to pause all the freaking time, then get over it (developers) and make it turn based as it begs you to do.
I have enough shit in my life to have to worry in a strategy game if I paused the game fast enough to save my empire. Not to mention the waste of time/movement/calories say it as you want, of having to press spacebar (or whatever key) all the time, or moving to the pause button with the mouse every few seconds.
(frustrated they made Distant Worlds real time)
As for Sins, I don't think we should even discussing it/comparing it with 4X games.

Don't you go badmouthing the EU series. :) Seriously though, the idea behind the 'real-time' progress with pausing in that series is to allow it to be more dynamic. Events occour throughout the month rather than being presented with a huge list at the end of it; battles breakout and are resolved in their own time, rather than starting or ending at the start/end of a month. It allows things to be much more fluid. Don't get me wrong, the constant moving nature of it got on my nerves as well, being a fan of 4x games, but it eventually won me over with it's sheer depth and historical accuracy (being a big history buff (nerd) this was very gratifying for me).
Post edited May 14, 2010 by Al1
I know how the EU games are. :p Apart from HoI 2 and 3, I have all their games and expansions.
I still wish for a turn based mode every single time I play any of them.
The only one that is passable in this way is Rome. For some reason it feels good to me.
:)
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trusteft: I know how the EU games are. :p Apart from HoI 2 and 3, I have all their games and expansions.
I still wish for a turn based mode every single time I play any of them.
The only one that is passable in this way is Rome. For some reason it feels good to me.
:)

Do you have Crusader Kings with its expansion, Deus Vult? It's my favorite Paradox game.
And yes, my second favorite is Rome with the Vae Victis expansion. Fun stuff.
Post edited May 14, 2010 by Wolfox
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Wolfox: Do you have Crusader Kings with its expansion, Deus Vult? It's my favorite Paradox game.
And yes, my second favorite is Rome with the Vae Victis expansion. Fun stuff.

I have CK, but never managed to stay focused enough. I like the theory and the depth, the implementation not so much.
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Faithful: Let me ask you both. Which media did you purchase when you bought the DW (CD or Digital Download)?

I see you've got your answer and bought Armada, but still: Both digital download. Armada from GG, DW from Matrix. The reason I went for digital download is that this is VAT free in my country, but as soon as I import a boxed copy there will be VAT and customs fees, and that adds up to a substantial amount of money (to the extent that it might double the price).
Armada was DRM free on GG. But the downside seems to be that if I want to play the latest patched version I have to re-download the whole thing. Pretty weird (and now that I remembered that, I also remember why I never got around to playing it again).
Distant World is also pretty light on DRM, it's a bit annoying to need the serial code for patching the game, but it's not a big deal.
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Zeewolf: Armada was DRM free on GG. But the downside seems to be that if I want to play the latest patched version I have to re-download the whole thing. Pretty weird (and now that I remembered that, I also remember why I never got around to playing it again).

For beta patches you can dowlonad nd install them from the official forum.
In the last official release (non beta) of 1.024 I contacted the developer about the above issu4e, which is absurd (he didn't see to get it much at first) and he said he was going to change it for future full patches. The non beta 1.3 should be out soon, so I hope that's what he does.