Then I'd bet there's some caching or proxy between you and forbes.com that was messing it up until it realised "this needs to be refreshed" (or you got shoved to another node and got through that way).

Publisher(s) Microsoft Windows
NA Atari, Inc
EU Namco Bandai Games
AU Atari, Inc
JP CyberFront

Xbox 360
EU Namco Bandai Games[1]
NA Warner Bros. Interactive[2]
AU Warner Bros. Interactive

I guess the writer...wanted to show us his hate over Tages :D Strangely Witcher 2 from GOG is pretty hard to find on trackers... but the Skidrow version is everywhere...same as the Xbox version...

I really only wish they'd start making games based on a fantasy series that I don't care for or at least have a game where the players could make a hero in that universe.

Skid Row version most likely IS the GOG version.

It's a shit strategy, they got away with it because WoW is an MMORPG and it helps them reduce the cheating. For most games it's not a reasonable way of handling things and greatly increases the costs of operating games which might not require an online component.

But, with Diablo3 and SC2 they've gotten substantially more flack as there's no reason for D3 to lack a single player game and they both ought to have LAN play, especially SC2.

Nope it isn't ...there is crack in it :D

The answer as to whether they'll right their ship is in the hands of us, not Blizzard.

If enough of us support that intrusive DRM, then that's the direction they'll go. If enough of us avoid it like the plague, then that's the direction they'll go.

And don't worry. It doesn't have to all happen at once. If you can convince one person per month to no longer buy crap with such restrictive DRM, and many of us simply do that, in time, it will be gone.

I think this article was mostly right on point, most especially the part about making the whole experience for us legitimate buyers worse than the experience the piraters endure. I cannot STAND some of the shit that these things put on my computer, and getting rid of it is sometimes a chore in itself.

Between that fact, and the fact that no matter how well they get at making DRM someone will get equally well at cracking it, I believe it's only a matter of time before DRM will be gone, with the possible exception of always connected. But we as gamers can speed that whole process up by simply not purchasing games like Diablo 3. Nothing gets the attention of a company like hits to their bottom line does.

So many folks, (and I would consider them foolish and inconsiderate-mmm, sounds pretty American to me) are OK with the always connected idea, that it's going to probably be the hardest one to beat. And I say foolish and inconsiderate because 1)Foolish because they think it's never going to be a burden for them. lol. At some point, somewhere, somehow, something is going to happen that prevents them, as legitimate purchasers, from playing their game when they want to play it. And they'll probably whine like hell when it does. And 2) inconsiderate because the fact is, and it is a FACT, internet service itself is nowhere near 100%. And it never will be. And to support a policy that intentionally discriminates against so many others without a care in the world since it doesn't affect them is, IMO, very inconsiderate.

I'll stop here in this thread and let all who wish to flame away now. You have my word I won't respond.

So far the only 2 games that can't be pirated perfectly are Diablo 3 & Starcraft 2... So pretty much all of the games on the market are pirated even before release... So yes drm like SecuROM,Tages,Starfoce...or anything else is quite pointless anyways :D

And if you look a tracker like Demonoid for instance... there are GOG's on it... but the ammount of downloads is ridicilously small compared to other new games.

The GOG version of The Witcher 2 - 742 downloads
Skidrow - 2152 downloads
BlackBox - 660 downloads
SiMON - 481 downloads

and all the previous versions of TW2 - are downloaded over 2000 just on Demonoid.

So Guillaume is quite right that the cracking groups do it just to show they can... not for the games :D

Funny, the very first Witcher 2 Skidrow torrent on Pirate Bay doesn't mention a crack, it's just install, then play, and on the second pages of the comments someone outright says it's the GOG version.

Than the release groups are ridicilous :D To pirate something and say it is yours is just stupid...

It's sort of like graffiti...bad, bad, game-stealing graffiti...

Considering Skidrow's ridiculously shitty cracking skills (they only do no DRM games and DRM systems with established cracking schemes, like Steam), I'm not surprised.

They aren't bad as that Ali123 guy :D

This is a well written and fives some really good points. There does seem to be an ego boost in breaking drm and all DRM does is annoy its customes. I installed namco arcade hits on my pc and thanks to starfoge it buggered up my windows 7 so yeah DRM just buggers things up for people who buys the games legally.

It seems now that Ubisoft is getting the message in fact drm free versions of Far cry 2,Heroes of might and magic 5 etc.

We Will never stop piracy as some people would never buy a game and rather have it for free in some ways its these people we need to try and change their minds if we can by hopefully using a carrot not a drm stick.

And yet Steamworks actually increases sales. It all depends.

Consumers like stuff that works. If your game works, they will be happy.