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Hey, did anyone visit the site lately? I can't find the link to the original C&C and there's an ominous "buy it here!" sign instead.
Post edited March 28, 2011 by svmariscal
Hmm looks like they changed thier minds
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svmariscal: Hey, did anyone visit the site lately? I can't find the link to the original C&C and there's an ominous "buy it here!" sign instead.
They took down the downloads from the official C&C website, but the games remain freeware and can still be found in other places on the internet. You can download the files for C&C95, Red Alert and Tiberian Sun from Shacknews, for example:

http://www.shacknews.com/game/command-conquer/files
http://www.shacknews.com/game/command-conquer-red-alert/files
http://www.shacknews.com/game/command-conquer-tiberian-sun/files
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svmariscal: Hey, did anyone visit the site lately? I can't find the link to the original C&C and there's an ominous "buy it here!" sign instead.
You are right, how interesting. Didn't some new C&C news leak out? Maybe it has to do with that?
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svmariscal: Hey, did anyone visit the site lately? I can't find the link to the original C&C and there's an ominous "buy it here!" sign instead.
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Fuzzyfireball: You are right, how interesting. Didn't some new C&C news leak out? Maybe it has to do with that?
Maybe it's just proving difficult to charge people for the new C&C games when better C&C games are available for free?
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Fuzzyfireball: You are right, how interesting. Didn't some new C&C news leak out? Maybe it has to do with that?
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Navagon: Maybe it's just proving difficult to charge people for the new C&C games when better C&C games are available for free?
I got C&C3 RA and Tiberium wars a while back, and they really aren't better in any significant way than the ones that are already free. They're a fun play, but they aren't really fun enough to pay for unless you've already grown bored of the old ones.
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hedwards: I got C&C3 RA and Tiberium wars a while back, and they really aren't better in any significant way than the ones that are already free. They're a fun play, but they aren't really fun enough to pay for unless you've already grown bored of the old ones.
To be honest RA 3 onwards hasn't interested me enough to try them out. So I can't comment on anything more than what I've consistently been told by everyone who has. Red Alert was a little bit tongue in cheek, sure. But RA3 looks like it's trying to beat gamers over the head with a pantomime stick. The graphics are also too cartoony.

In short EA just doesn't seem to understand the series at all.
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Navagon: To be honest RA 3 onwards hasn't interested me enough to try them out. So I can't comment on anything more than what I've consistently been told by everyone who has. Red Alert was a little bit tongue in cheek, sure. But RA3 looks like it's trying to beat gamers over the head with a pantomime stick. The graphics are also too cartoony.

In short EA just doesn't seem to understand the series at all.
I tend to agree with that. RA3 is fun, but really it's not a C&CRA game, Tiberium wars is at least a C&C game, but really both games are worth playing, even if they aren't as good as the ones before EA took things over.
Well, nearly the right way. True, it is just an archive containing the files, with a registry file to run if you want to be able to take it online. However, you HAVE to extract the files to a specific location, you cannot just choose where you want to extract it to.

It has to be in the below location:

C:\Program Files\EA Games\Command & Conquer The First Decade

I tried using it from C:\Games and it just wouldn't load up, kept giving an error message, but as soon as I put it here, where they say to extract it to, it works. So, some part of it must be hard-coded to read from that path.
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korell: Well, nearly the right way. True, it is just an archive containing the files, with a registry file to run if you want to be able to take it online. However, you HAVE to extract the files to a specific location, you cannot just choose where you want to extract it to.

It has to be in the below location:

C:\Program Files\EA Games\Command & Conquer The First Decade

I tried using it from C:\Games and it just wouldn't load up, kept giving an error message, but as soon as I put it here, where they say to extract it to, it works. So, some part of it must be hard-coded to read from that path.
You know you can just link the files to that location, right? Newer versions of Windows support it natively, for XP there's always http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896768
Do you mean symbolic linking? I have read very little on it and what I have read hasn't really given me any real reason to use it.

Possibly my understanding of Vista's symlinks isn't right, but what I read was that it effectively just creates a new folder that points to the files of another folder (so the files exist once but show up in two different folders).

So, for this C&C Tib Sun example, you'd still have to extract the files into the Program Files folder, but a symlink could allow those same files to be accessed via another folder such as C:\Games\C&C Tib Sun\ and this is why I question the usage of symlinks - what advantage do you get over a shortcut to the folder containing the files? And if anything, a shortcut simply has to be deleted, and being a visible item it is there to remind you. However, a symlink appears to be a property attached to a folder, so you need to remember to remove the symlink before you uninstall and delete the folders.

However, as I said, my knowledge of these symlinks is very little so I may be missing something.
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korell: Do you mean symbolic linking? I have read very little on it and what I have read hasn't really given me any real reason to use it.
I guess it depends upon your reason for not wanting to extract the files into that particular directory. If you're using the c:\games directory as an organizational thing and mainly to ensure that your games are backed up, then this is for you, otherwise it might not be any better than just installing it int that folder.

Your knowledge of symbolic linking is fine so far as Windows goes, I mostly understand the process on other OSes.
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korell: Do you mean symbolic linking? I have read very little on it and what I have read hasn't really given me any real reason to use it.

Possibly my understanding of Vista's symlinks isn't right, but what I read was that it effectively just creates a new folder that points to the files of another folder (so the files exist once but show up in two different folders).

So, for this C&C Tib Sun example, you'd still have to extract the files into the Program Files folder, but a symlink could allow those same files to be accessed via another folder such as C:\Games\C&C Tib Sun\ and this is why I question the usage of symlinks - what advantage do you get over a shortcut to the folder containing the files? And if anything, a shortcut simply has to be deleted, and being a visible item it is there to remind you. However, a symlink appears to be a property attached to a folder, so you need to remember to remove the symlink before you uninstall and delete the folders.

However, as I said, my knowledge of these symlinks is very little so I may be missing something.
You can install the game to "C:\Games\C&C Tib Sun" because that folder isn't protected by UAC, make a symlink at "C:\Program FIles\C&C Tib Sun" because the game expects to be found there - now the game can write to its folder (savegames, for example) because it isn't protected, and it works because its files can be found where it expects them.

Or like I do, I install games to one folder, and use symlinks to redirect the various save folders to another single location. Now I can uninstall all my games without having to remember backing up my saves, no matter whether they like to save in their own directory, microsoft's "saves" folder, or an arbitrary location in my user directory - because they're all redirected to one place (with subdirectories), and I can easily back them all up in one shot. (I just have to remember making the symlink as I install the game... again)
Post edited March 29, 2011 by Miaghstir
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Miaghstir: You can install the game to "C:\Games\C&C Tib Sun" because that folder isn't protected by UAC, make a symlink at "C:\Program FIles\C&C Tib Sun" because the game expects to be found there - now the game can write to its folder (savegames, for example) because it isn't protected, and it works because its files can be found where it expects them.
ave to remember making the symlink as I install the game... again)
Now that does make a bit more sense. I think the reason I wasn't getting it before is that because of the issues with the game wanting to be in Program Files I ended up giving in to it an extracting it there, and even though it is in Program Files it still puts the save files in it's own SUN sub-folder within the Program Files installation folder. So because of this I just created a shortcut to the game executable and hence why I couldn't see any value in using a symlink.
The C&C official forum has a useful thread regarding TFD compatibility, mods, etc. [url=http://www.commandandconquer.com/forums/showthread.php?547-Common-Problems-(Updated-07-03-2011)]Here.[/url]
Post edited March 30, 2011 by Vagabond