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Does GoG only recreates old classic games to newer OS, or they can also create titles that weren't actual videogames.

What I have in mind is Star Wars pinball, 2 pinball machines from the old coin-op arcades.

Virtual pinball is an emulator made to recreate such machines but never seemed to work properly.
Will GoG succeed were others have failed, or does no go after such games?
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Post edited April 02, 2011 by Jwrath
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Jwrath: Does GoG only recreates old classic games to newer OS, or they can also create titles that weren't actual videogames.
You already wrote something along these lines in your other thread and no one corrected you -- GOG doesn't actually recreate anything. They are the very same games as before.
Sorry but if those games were as originally made, then they wouldn't be working on newer systems. Not by a longshot.

It is some sort of recreation.

For example Heroes of Might and Magic 2 and Outcast were bot Windows games with their music in audio form. Gog not only managed to made them to play in OS like Vista but turned audio music to mp3 and attached it to the games.

Ok DOS games like Megarace 2 are running through a preset DosBox environment so they can't be considered as recreations, but Windows games are something else.
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Jwrath: Sorry but if those games were as originally made, then they wouldn't be working on newer systems. Not by a longshot.

It is some sort of recreation.

For example Heroes of Might and Magic 2 and Outcast were bot Windows games with their music in audio form. Gog not only managed to made them to play in OS like Vista but turned audio music to mp3 and attached it to the games.

Ok DOS games like Megarace 2 are running through a preset DosBox environment so they can't be considered as recreations, but Windows games are something else.
They have a custom launcher file that they use, which deals with things like dependency issues and libraries that aren't typically available on newer systems.

Games which they have to recreate aren't ever going to be offered here.
Whatever the procedure they go through, it's still considered as a recreation.

I'm not talking about a remake version, where someone taps in the very core of the game, keeps the game's idea but changes everything else. From video quality to better graphics engine and programming. But then the final product would be something else, not the original title.

And I don't know how can someone make so many changes and sell the game under the original company's banner.
Post edited April 02, 2011 by Jwrath
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Jwrath: Whatever the procedure they go through, it's still considered as a recreation.

I'm not talking about a remake version, where someone taps in the very core of the game, keeps the game's idea but changes everything else. From video quality to better graphics engine and programming. But then the final product would be something else, not the original title.

And I don't know how can someone make so many changes and sell the game under the original company's banner.
It's not a recreation, it's basically just a compatibility patch. Recreation is usually where one reverse engineers the engine and uses only the art, sound and music from the original game. Such as Eduke or Doomsday for Duke Nukem and Doom respectively.

If they have to do anything more than add a compatibility patch they don't do it. So, anything which was previously not a computer game isn't going to be sold here. With the possible exception of old school console games, and even that is remote.
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Jwrath: Whatever the procedure they go through, it's still considered as a recreation.

I'm not talking about a remake version, where someone taps in the very core of the game, keeps the game's idea but changes everything else. From video quality to better graphics engine and programming. But then the final product would be something else, not the original title.

And I don't know how can someone make so many changes and sell the game under the original company's banner.
It's more like fitting a car with a catalytic converter, so that it is able to be driven on roads in line with present laws. The car is still a Reliant Robin, but it is now one that can be driven in a modern environment (and with a motorcycle license in the case of the Robin).

The actual game isn't being changed, it's just augmenting the game to use and accept more modern features (and to no longer require certain DRM related features). GOG don't hack the source, they don't atually recompile the game, so it is no different to if you applied a patch. A patch is not a recreation, just an update to resolve compatiblity issues.
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Jwrath: USERNAME:hedwards#Q&_^Q&Q#GROUP:4If they have to do anything more than add a compatibility patch they don't do it. So, anything which was previously not a computer game isn't going to be sold here. With the possible exception of old school console games, and even that is remote.
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Jwrath:
I don't think he (or I with my recent post) were precluding allowing the existing developers to deliver patches via the platform. However that's different to recreating a game. They have just delivered a patch that would not be available through other channels.
Post edited April 02, 2011 by wpegg
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USERNAME:hedwards#Q&_^Q&Q#GROUP:4If they have to do anything more than add a compatibility patch they don't do it. So, anything which was previously not a computer game isn't going to be sold here. With the possible exception of old school console games, and even that is remote.
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That's my bad for using and indefinite pronoun. I meant that if Mr. Gog has to do more than a minor patch it's not likely to show up here. Additionally, in many cases, particularly for the really old games, there is no source available because it's been lost.

I've got no particular knowledge of who does the work, just that some games are beyond what even Mr. Gog can handle.
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wpegg: I don't think he (or I with my recent post) were precluding allowing the existing developers to deliver patches via the platform. However that's different to recreating a game. They have just delivered a patch that would not be available through other channels.
Right, I've got no particular knowledge about that, just a few comments here and there about titles that might not get released because Mr. Gog can't make it happen. I would assume in those cases that the developer can't or won't do it.
Post edited April 02, 2011 by hedwards
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USERNAME:wpegg#Q&_^Q&Q#GROUP:4I don't think he (or I with my recent post) were precluding allowing the existing developers to deliver patches via the platform. However that's different to recreating a game. They have just delivered a patch that would not be available through other channels.
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Heh, I was aware that they asked, but that was, IIRC, a poll asking about how we'd like them to expand if they were to do so.

I thought it was remote primarily because we haven't heard anything at all since then.

OTOH, if that big developer were Sega, it might be going to happen.
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USERNAME:wpegg#Q&_^Q&Q#GROUP:4I don't think he (or I with my recent post) were precluding allowing the existing developers to deliver patches via the platform. However that's different to recreating a game. They have just delivered a patch that would not be available through other channels.
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USERNAME:hedwards#Q&_^Q&Q#GROUP:4I meant that if Mr. Gog has to do more than a minor patch it's not likely to show up here. Additionally, in many cases, particularly for the really old games, there is no source available because it's been lost.
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Well, by the sound of it, we all completely agree with each other.

It's group hug time!
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USERNAME:hedwards#Q&_^Q&Q#GROUP:4#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:11#Q&_^Q&Q#OTOH, if that big developer were Sega, it might be going to happen.#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:11#Q&_^Q&Q#
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Sega wouldn't surprise me and it would be substantially less wrong than Sonic on GBA was. I think a lot of their games are already going for a low enough price, at least the old ones, that they could do like a Sonic 3 pack for either $6 or $10.