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General discussion (archive)Drakensang, or Fate? Which hard copy should I purchase?(24 posts)(24 posts)
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Posted February 09, 2014
Torchlight is fate made right and get drakensang the dark eye the game world and the interaction are very fun, a bit like dragon age but also very different
Posted February 09, 2014
Drakensang really shines, when one is familiar with the DSA-system. I actually have played DSA and AD&D (20 years ago). Drakensang I played some 4 years ago and re-read the rule system for this. I think the german version also had the actual basic rule book as pdf as bonus.
Important to know is that the basic attributes are very important, because they are checked with a D20 when skills and magic are used. Wounds, poison etc. is really dangerous because they subtract from the basic attributes and therefore all actions get more harder. Magic is costly and no instant joker. You really have to understand how all this fits mathematical together and plan what tactical tasks in combat each party member should have and skill suitable.

Take for instance Charisma. It does not just means one is pretty or not. To use the wound healing skill one has to make a D20 test against Intelligence/Charisma/Dexterity.
That means to heal someone, you must be smart enough (to understand what you are actually medically doing), have the necessary light-fingeredness to deal with wounds, and you must have confidence in what you are doing and also evoke it in the eyes of your patient.

DSA is a really good and thought-out rule set, but it's all hidden in the math.

Edit: It's a little bit hard for me to simply get to the point about, what I want to say in English language.
But I found this on amazon reviews for Drakensang. Worth quoting:
...Combat and other game mechanics follow The Dark Eye's Basic Rules . Each of your 4 characters have dozens of attributes that you put points into. These attributes all interact while doing almost anything. This is quite different from most American or Japanese RPGs that generally use one attribute or stat for each specific task. The end result is that you get more realistic characters and fewer min-max characters (such as the hulk that can't brush his teeth for sheer stupidity).
Post edited February 09, 2014 by moyal
Posted February 09, 2014
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BlackMageJ: I got the first Drakensang in a Groupees a while back. Only played the very beginning before adding it to the backlog, but it seems really good.

Also, IIRC River of Time and Phileason's Secret are subject to some sort of legal wrangling that prevents them being sold in certain countries. Obviously they can't stop people shipping physical discs around, but it seems unlikely they'll ever reach GOG.
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wolfsrain: Not anymore. All Radon labs Drakensang titles are available on Steam, pretty much everywhere. So, yeah, GOG should bring them in their catalog.
Huh, so they are. For once, I'm glad to be wrong.
But yeah, they're overpriced compared to a disc copy from Amazon.
Posted February 09, 2014
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JinseiNGC224: Seeing neither of these series are on GOG (though they should; vote through the links below), I'd like to purchase a disc copy of one of the following. They're so affordable though I might just get both. I do know that they are different types of games, even if they both have action-RPG similarities and good narrative/voice overs from videos I've seen.

I know little to nothing about these series past a few clips of videos. I don't like to spoil too much.

For now though, if you had to choose, which series would you get? Drakensang, or Fate? And why?

http://www.amazon.com/Drakensang-Complete-River-Phileassons-Secret-Pc/dp/B005OGYVKU/ref=pd_bxgy_vg_img_y

http://www.amazon.com/Encore-31350-Fate-Jewel-Case/dp/B005UI8V6C/ref=pd_bxgy_vg_img_z

Vote for them on the wishlist to come to GOG:

http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games#search=drakensang

http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/fate
No contest. Drakensang. Great RPG series. Fate is okay, but there's better out there. And Fate has issues running on newer computers that lots of folks can't seem to get over.

And, as others said, Torchlight is just like Fate, only better.



P.S. I own Drakensang (my review is the #1 review on your Amazon link) and have that exact copy. It's worth the price times 3.

P.P.S. One of the renditions of Fate was given away for free a while back somewhere (maybe Wild Tangent gave it away?) and I played it for all of 5 minutes. There's just so much better out there.
Post edited February 09, 2014 by Tallima
Posted February 09, 2014
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wolfsrain: Apparently, only the Fate version sold directly by Wild Tangent has DRM. The retail doesn't.
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Impaler26: Can anyone confirm this? I also wanna buy the Fate games but only if they are DRM-Free.
The retail copy I own of FATE (released 2005) has DRM.

It requires once-off activation over the internet, and this will be need to be completed successfully before the installation is completed. If activation fails, the installation will be cancelled.
Posted February 09, 2014
Fate's a diablo so i'd go for Drakensang even though i wasn't much into the first game and i haven't played the second one at all.
Posted February 09, 2014
Drakensang without any doubt
Posted February 09, 2014
I'll add my vote to Drakensang.

Plus, it's DRM free. After you load it from the disc, you can take the disc out, put it away, and play it anytime. I bought the complete pack very cheaply at Amazon.

I will say this, I got several hours into it, it's definitely a lot of fun, but the main thing that blew me away was all of the character development options and how they worked. It was amazing.

My only problem with it, the controls are a little clunky. I ended up using a combination mouse/keyboard because using the mouse for movement did not work in this game as well as others.
Posted February 09, 2014
Mouse + Keyboard is definitely best for Drakensang.
It's all tun-able in the control settings.
I'm a lefty - so normally when it goes for restricted input options, I am on the bad end.
Can't remember of problems with Drakensang.
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