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Narakir: You know Blind Guardian actually made a song about Dune do you ? Guess you've to be a more suitable band than Maiden for that. *Waves the troll flag to start another heavy metal argument :p*
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tinyE: Maiden made the song, even mention the name "Dune" in it (as well as a lot of the House names/terms), it was when they tried to name the song "Dune" that they got into trouble.
Another song with a dune reference http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDIYvFmgW8

Carry on...
And don't forget about the Dune german band. Here's one of their themes: Are You Ready To Fly. ;)
Post edited August 01, 2013 by Thespian*
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junker154: I really miss games set in the Dune universe. It offers so much potential especially in the RTS genre, I played Emperor Battle for Dune to death when I was a child, it had some really amazing concepts and units.

A new Dune RTS would be really great, not just a remake. With a good singleplayer campaign, like in Emperor. The campaign was quite brilliant, more dynamic and interactive instead of a list of missions that you have to play through. Also the fact that you could choose which allies you wanted was neat and how the different factions affected eachother.

Dune is really forgotten these days.
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langurmonkey: Unfortunately Dune is really forgotten these days. And I don't know why? Have people's tastes become so bad, the Dune universe is no longer appealing in their eyes?
Dune series haven die yet, at list in my heart ^^ ahhhhhhhh, how i wish some of the ppl like gog.com can release them again, i will buy it directly ~~
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tinyE: I had a feeling that was the case, I just like bitching about Frank. :P It's not so much that he told Maiden they couldn't use the name it's that he insisted on putting down the whole genre while he did it.
He put down knights and dragons-metal while refusing to let circusorchestra Iron Maiden use "Dune" as a title for a song? I don't really see how this could offend anyone. I put down artists and genres or just people in general on a daily basis. Don't we all? If Frank Herbert didn't like Maiden or middleearth-metal then thats his right, right? And letting artists in that genre know how little he appreciates them is also his right, right?

Good for him, I say!

About the Dune games; Yes! Especially the first one! Stephane Picq's soundtrack was amazeballs!
Post edited August 01, 2013 by Voight-Kampff
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Thespian*: So many good memories (I love the Dune universe). Dune 2 was THE game which got me hooked to the RTS genre for ever.
Same here.

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Thespian*: And what to say of the artwork and the inmersion of the first Dune, by Cryo Interactive?
Breath taking? Awesome? Unforgettable? It's my second favourite game of all time (based on my favourite novel of all time).

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Thespian*: And Emperor: Battle for Dune was a worthy game by itself, too. :)
It's a good game, but some of the changes to the setting were just horrible, in my opinion.

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Thespian*: The other two games related to the franchise I know are Dune 2000 and Frank Herbert's Dune, but I hadn't the chance to play them at the time. :(
D2k was pretty much a remake of D2 using the C&C mechanics. It was okay, in my opinion. Could have been better, especially if they had used the novel instead of the movie as inspiration, but it could have also been worse.

I never played FHD myself, but from what I heard, it's abysmal.
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Gaunathor: Breath taking? Awesome? Unforgettable? It's my second favourite game of all time (based on my favourite novel of all time).
Yeah, all those adjectives are entirely appropiate. :D

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Thespian*: And Emperor: Battle for Dune was a worthy game by itself, too. :)
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Gaunathor: It's a good game, but some of the changes to the setting were just horrible, in my opinion.
I managed to forgive it, just to have the chance to revisit that universe once again. ;)

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Gaunathor: D2k was pretty much a remake of D2 using the C&C mechanics. It was okay, in my opinion. Could have been better, especially if they had used the novel instead of the movie as inspiration, but it could have also been worse.

I never played FHD myself, but from what I heard, it's abysmal.
D2k had cinematic scenes like C&C titles, IIRC?

About FHD, I read some reviews at the time, and (except for the odd -but typical in some publications- "let's praise the game in all its glory"), the gameplay received severe critics...
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Thespian*: D2k had cinematic scenes like C&C titles, IIRC?
It did.
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Thespian*: D2k had cinematic scenes like C&C titles, IIRC?
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Gaunathor: It did.
Well, I don't give up the hope to see some of the Dune games released here eventually. After SS2, everything seems possible. ;)
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tinyE: I had a feeling that was the case, I just like bitching about Frank. :P It's not so much that he told Maiden they couldn't use the name it's that he insisted on putting down the whole genre while he did it.
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Voight-Kampff: He put down knights and dragons-metal while refusing to let circusorchestra Iron Maiden use "Dune" as a title for a song? I don't really see how this could offend anyone. I put down artists and genres or just people in general on a daily basis. Don't we all? If Frank Herbert didn't like Maiden or middleearth-metal then thats his right, right? And letting artists in that genre know how little he appreciates them is also his right, right?

Good for him, I say!

About the Dune games; Yes! Especially the first one! Stephane Picq's soundtrack was amazeballs!
Of course it's his right, I never insinuated it wasn't. What pisses me off is that he condemned a genre as "noise" because he didn't like it. Again is that illegal? No way, but it does show he is an asshole. You don't see me going around calling things crap just because I don't like them.
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htown1980: I recently played through the original Dune on CD, having picked it up from an op shop for $2. It was as great as I remembered it. I feel bad for peeps who don't own it :(
I have the CD version too.. but to be frank, I never quite figured out how to play the game, or what was the point of it all. Run around in different rooms discussing with the talking heads, then head out to fly... somewhere... :) Is this an adventure game, or a strategy game, or a bit of both, or neither? In that sense, maybe I got a bit of Cinemaware vibe with the game, they usually seemed to mix light adventuring with action and strategy sequences too.

I guess I need to try to replay Dune at some point.

Dune 2 on the other hand, I got the gameplay idea instantly, even though the gameplay was something I had not seen before.
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htown1980: I recently played through the original Dune on CD, having picked it up from an op shop for $2. It was as great as I remembered it. I feel bad for peeps who don't own it :(
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timppu: I have the CD version too.. but to be frank, I never quite figured out how to play the game, or what was the point of it all. Run around in different rooms discussing with the talking heads, then head out to fly... somewhere... :) Is this an adventure game, or a strategy game, or a bit of both, or neither? In that sense, maybe I got a bit of Cinemaware vibe with the game, they usually seemed to mix light adventuring with action and strategy sequences too.

I guess I need to try to replay Dune at some point.

Dune 2 on the other hand, I got the gameplay idea instantly, even though the gameplay was something I had not seen before.
Yup, its definitely strange. It starts off looking like an adventure game but it is really just a strategy game, maybe with a bit of exploration. After the first hour maybe it becomes just a matter of managing your fremen, harvesters and weapons, finding new caves that they hide in, training troops, etc, etc. If you are into the Dune lore, its not a bad game.

I played Dune 2 before Dune and the style of game did take me by surprise but over time I learned to appreciate it. I think it has probably held up better than Dune 2 has over time...
Will love to see the Dune games here (at least the RTS ones). I have Dune 2000 and Emperor: Battle for Dune in physical media but will love to have a legal copy of Dune 2 and digital backups of the other two
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htown1980: I played Dune 2 before Dune and the style of game did take me by surprise but over time I learned to appreciate it. I think it has probably held up better than Dune 2 has over time...
Well, Dune 2 had (and still has) that "nice" feature that there could be only a certain amount of items in the game area. This made some of the last missions quite "interesting", as suddenly there were so many units that the limit was reached and:

- you (or the enemy) couldn't build more units or build more buildings, until something was destroyed first

- but even that wasn't necessarily possible anymore at that point, as your units couldn't even fire any bullets, as bullets were considered as items as well. :)

So there you were, stuck, hoping that your sluggishly firing units would be able to destroy even one enemy or building. Quite often at that point you had to restart the level from the beginning, and try to be more proactive in attacking the enemy bases so that the unit limit would never be reached.
Post edited August 01, 2013 by timppu
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Voight-Kampff: He put down knights and dragons-metal while refusing to let circusorchestra Iron Maiden use "Dune" as a title for a song? I don't really see how this could offend anyone. I put down artists and genres or just people in general on a daily basis. Don't we all? If Frank Herbert didn't like Maiden or middleearth-metal then thats his right, right? And letting artists in that genre know how little he appreciates them is also his right, right?

Good for him, I say!

About the Dune games; Yes! Especially the first one! Stephane Picq's soundtrack was amazeballs!
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tinyE: Of course it's his right, I never insinuated it wasn't. What pisses me off is that he condemned a genre as "noise" because he didn't like it. Again is that illegal? No way, but it does show he is an asshole. You don't see me going around calling things crap just because I don't like them.
In that case you're a much more mellow and reflected man then I am, sir! :)
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Voight-Kampff: He put down knights and dragons-metal while refusing to let circusorchestra Iron Maiden use "Dune" as a title for a song? I don't really see how this could offend anyone. I put down artists and genres or just people in general on a daily basis. Don't we all? If Frank Herbert didn't like Maiden or middleearth-metal then thats his right, right? And letting artists in that genre know how little he appreciates them is also his right, right?

Good for him, I say!

About the Dune games; Yes! Especially the first one! Stephane Picq's soundtrack was amazeballs!
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tinyE: Of course it's his right, I never insinuated it wasn't. What pisses me off is that he condemned a genre as "noise" because he didn't like it. Again is that illegal? No way, but it does show he is an asshole. You don't see me going around calling things crap just because I don't like them.
Something I did not know about Frank Herbert until now.