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oldschool: Now fucking EA is going to wait for games to be fully funded on Kickstart then lure indie developers under the whole "Origin umbrella". Maybe it's just me or this just seems disingenous at best.
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bazilisek: Dude, it's a shop that has decided to stock a product, and is willing to give the manufacturer of the product preferential conditions to have it on its shelves. Why do you people have to attach emotions and politics to everything?

Selling the game on as many outlets as possible is good for everyone: the developer, the store and the customers.
I find myself wondering if these people get this wrapped up in nonsense over every aspect of their every day lives. What a joyless and pointless existence that must be.
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bazilisek: Dude, it's a shop that has decided to stock a product, and is willing to give the manufacturer of the product preferential conditions to have it on its shelves. Why do you people have to attach emotions and politics to everything?

Selling the game on as many outlets as possible is good for everyone: the developer, the store and the customers.
I agree, that choice is key. But I'm guessing the emotion comes from the unknown. If Origin is simply one of several distributors and nothing else... This is only good news (and I hate Origin). However, I think some of the concern may be, what are ALL of the details of the agreement? Can they still distribute FREELY (no strings) to other sites like GOG? Does Origin have any influence over the game or future deals? Etc.

To me, one of the greatest caveats of KS is that it removes the Publisher from the equation. (something STEAM was supposed to do, but just put themselves in that seat instead). My concern of Origin (or anyone) jumping in on the KS projects, is they are trying to get their foot in the door (many of these projects are only there because legitimate publishers passed on them... now they have proven successful and publishers/distributors want a cut). Publisher-free is the best way I can imagine for a developer to create their true vision and leave all the nasty business garbage that only benefits the publisher out of the project.

So, if Origin simply wants to be one of many distributors with no strings attached... I think its great. Otherwise, I can see room for concern.
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bazilisek: Dude, it's a shop that has decided to stock a product, and is willing to give the manufacturer of the product preferential conditions to have it on its shelves. Why do you people have to attach emotions and politics to everything?

Selling the game on as many outlets as possible is good for everyone: the developer, the store and the customers.
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hucklebarry: I agree, that choice is key. But I'm guessing the emotion comes from the unknown. If Origin is simply one of several distributors and nothing else... This is only good news (and I hate Origin). However, I think some of the concern may be, what are ALL of the details of the agreement? Can they still distribute FREELY (no strings) to other sites like GOG? Does Origin have any influence over the game or future deals? Etc.

To me, one of the greatest caveats of KS is that it removes the Publisher from the equation. (something STEAM was supposed to do, but just put themselves in that seat instead). My concern of Origin (or anyone) jumping in on the KS projects, is they are trying to get their foot in the door (many of these projects are only there because legitimate publishers passed on them... now they have proven successful and publishers/distributors want a cut). Publisher-free is the best way I can imagine for a developer to create their true vision and leave all the nasty business garbage that only benefits the publisher out of the project.

So, if Origin simply wants to be one of many distributors with no strings attached... I think its great. Otherwise, I can see room for concern.
All of this has already been addressed on the Wastelands 2 dev forums. EA is simply a distributor, they are NOT publishing the game. Nobody has any say in how the game is developed beyond the developers. And it will be widely distributed beyond Origin.

And of course EA is capitalizing on Kickstarter success. It's a smart play. Will they end up owning some of these development houses? Probably...but that will only be because those developers chose to sell.
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SimonG: It is less of a hassle than Steam, because you won't need Origin to run in the background.
I do agree that it's less of a hassle than Steam, and even for games who needs the client the offline mode works much better than the Steam one (from my experience) but calling that "DRM-free", quotation mark or not, is IMO a good way to confuse peoples.
It's been promised DRM-free so I'm not too worried and this doesn't really bother me as far as DRM goes BUT it does put a little fear into my heart as far as censorship goes. Adults wanted Wasteland 2. I wanted controversial and adult moral dilemmas (which doesn't mean tits and cursing and tons of blood, although that would be ok if the situation called for it.) I worry that if Fargo is already looking to be able to sell on as many platforms as possible that he will tone it down and make it more generic. Even if Origin still wanted to sell an adult game, there's always a bunch of loudmouthed busybodies that don't seem to have anything better to do.

Anyway, I'm not jumping to conclusions yet but I do worry (just a little) about the news.