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The devs are doing another live stream tomorrow (April 11th) at 3 pm EST (9 pm CET) on their official twitch channel.
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Gaunathor: ... Frogboy said "no" because making an additional non-Steamworks would require too much time and effort. The full quote (plus link) has been posted further up-thread. ...
Yes I remember that although I still not believe it. If it stays Stardock will not get my money. But what else can a customer do? Not buying is the only influential decision possible.

I played GalCiv 1 and GalCiv 2 and that was it most probably. If GalCiv 3 is like GalCiv 2 or not - I couldn't care less. After all the Frog is also not caring about me.
Post edited April 12, 2014 by Trilarion
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Trilarion: Yes I remember that although I still not believe it.
I've already said several times on the Stardock-forums, that I would prefer a non-Steam version of GalCiv 3. It's not going to happen, so it's pointless to continue arguing about it. If it were any other game, I would just move on. For GalCiv 3, however, I am willing to go back to Steam (which I was hardly even using when I gave it a try four years ago). That's as far as I'm willing to go, however. Valve won't see a single cent from me.

As for everything else, I can only quote what the Frog said:
Valve is the only developer making a serious game platform for Windows games these days. Steamworks. It handles everything from in-game DLC, mods, multiplayer matchmaking, network conections, achievements, player stats, and so on.

We knew Steamworks was the key back in 2009 which is why we spent millions making Impulse::Reactor, a competing platform that would do its thing without requiring the client to be installed. But the market and the industry chose Steam over Impulse. And while Impulse was immensely successful (Being #2 in a billion dollar industry is still pretty awesome) it wasn't worth the corresponding headaches of having it.

I had hoped GameStop would do something with it. But they didn't. And Microsoft abandoned its Games for Windows Live thing. So Steamworks it is.

I spent millions of dollars putting my money where my mouth was regarding the Gamers Bill of Rights. And we still abide by it except in the case if someone decides to consider Steam a a violation of it in which case, ok, you got us. We're not abiding that part.
Just as an aside, here is something else the Frog said today:
The AOW3 budget > WOM + FE + LH + GalCiv III. To put things in perspective, the WOM team was 6 people. Total.
Makes you think, doesn't it? o.0
LOL @ "serious game platform"

There's already a serious game platform. It's called Windows.
I actually no longer care about having this at all to be honest. I don't believe Stardock is the kind of company I'd care to support anymore.
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LiquidOxygen80: I actually no longer care about having this at all to be honest. I don't believe Stardock is the kind of company I'd care to support anymore.
I'd love to see your games list if you only buy games from developers you 'support' :)
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Sulibor: I liked the 2nd part a lot and I would really be looking forward to this game, but I can not stand Brad Wardell after "Gamer's Bill of Rights" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamers_Bill_of_Rights) PR-stunt. 4 tears after signing this "pact" Brad's company goes hand in hand with Steam that breaks at least half of the points from the list.

I am sorry for the rant but I disregard hypocrites.
Elemental:: War of Magic and Elemental:: Fallen Enchantress were also significant breeches of the Gamers Bull of Rights. Support for both games were dropped without word. Their solution to buggy games has been for us to acquire the next expansion. For FE, there still sits a change list for an update that's been sitting stagnant and unreleased for more than thirteen months now ("Memory leak fixes" and "Fixed crashes"). No-one from stardork has bothered to reply in over a year. They just left us hanging. Was not the first time.

At the time it was announced, the selling of Impulse to gamestop seemed to be an April Fools joke. So opposite was gamestops method to what wardell was preaching Impulse to be. He spent much time touting the evils of steamworks versus the good of Impulse. How we as gamers Must buy from Impulse to give competition to steam, etc etc and yet more. i bought E::WOM because i accepted the terms and method of the Impulse service. And because i believed wardells lies of what that stores future held. He talked a good but hollow fight. Was nothing but sales cheese. If he had Any conviction behind his words, he would not have sold to something like gamestop.

i could say much more about brads lies, they were so numerous. Like in one interview where he is trying to recruit more staff, he says that the location of his software studio is a great place to work. The next week in another interview, he says the location sucks so bad that he can't hire all the people he needs (this his excuse for why the Elemental franchise was handled so poorly). He says what he thinks will help him at the time, not what is truth. His lies were so numerous and some so silly that i wonder if he even realizes how far gone he is. That he is pathological with his lying, not just strategic.

i had wanted GalCiv2. Would have bought it the first day it came available on GOG if not for the extreme level of dissatisfaction i've had from that studio. So they can stuff GalCiv3 up their arse for all i care.