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Turkey has laws against piracy, even though most of time it's useless, and this publisher sells a lot of legit stuff. For example WoW and Starcraft boxes, they all have legit keys. So don't think that it's a Vietnam thing.
Post edited January 19, 2011 by grynn
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KavazovAngel: Now this is piracy.

Not some kid sending the game to his friend via Messenger.
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TheCheese33: That's still piracy.
Not really. Its called sharing / gifting around here. :)
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TheCheese33: That's still piracy.
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KavazovAngel: Not really. Its called sharing / gifting around here. :)
And technically, under fair use doctrine, completely legal. Its only when you get into sharing anonymously on a massive scale (BitTorrent and such) that it starts to become piracy.
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Smannesman: I love shady dealers.
I once bought a Dreamcast boot disc because the one I got from the internet didn't work, turned out to be the same disc.
Worst of all, it started up with a message like "This is a completely free program, do NOT ask money for this". Jackass wouldn't refund me either.
lol that isnt fun for you but after all its lol
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KavazovAngel: Not really. Its called sharing / gifting around here. :)
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cogadh: And technically, under fair use doctrine, completely legal. Its only when you get into sharing anonymously on a massive scale (BitTorrent and such) that it starts to become piracy.
(Dammit, GOG ate my reply..... :( )

Yup, many copyright / intelectual property / sharing / internationals and local laws are in this stuff, conflicts on its definition can appear almost everywhere.

One thing is certain, distributing and selling stuff for profit, for which distribution you have no rights, is piracy. Like the original post here.
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KavazovAngel: Not really. Its called sharing / gifting around here. :)
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cogadh: And technically, under fair use doctrine, completely legal. Its only when you get into sharing anonymously on a massive scale (BitTorrent and such) that it starts to become piracy.
It's still piracy. Now, if you delete your copy and don't install it again, then it's a gift. But, if you're creating additional copies without paying, then you're pirating.

It used to be typical in the US for most software titles to be distributed via the sneakernet for free. You'd get a new computer and people would show up with commercial software. But, it was piracy, it's just that there wasn't really anything being done about it at that point in history unless you were a business.

But then again, that was also when viruses were rare and few people ran into them ever even without any antivirus software.
Please file a support ticket. And additionally, if GOG says they didn't allow the retail, feel free to go to the police, and GOG should file a civil lawsuit.

Addition: Oh yes, and even if they had a right from Codemasters to sell the game itself, the GOG installer - at least the picture it shows - still is intellectual property.
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grynn: ARAL[...]stupidity
Post edited January 19, 2011 by Protoss
Nice find, grynn. I doubt that GOG could do much given that the installer and the files it installs are not their property. But hopefully Codemasters will be able to do something about this. That said, I've got no idea what the copyright laws are like in Turkey.
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cogadh: And technically, under fair use doctrine, completely legal. Its only when you get into sharing anonymously on a massive scale (BitTorrent and such) that it starts to become piracy.
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hedwards: It's still piracy. Now, if you delete your copy and don't install it again, then it's a gift. But, if you're creating additional copies without paying, then you're pirating.
True, but the method of sharing Kavazov was referring to implied that already, therefore, not piracy. Just as it is completely legal to loan or give a friend a book or movie you own, it is completely legal to loan or give a friend a piece of software.
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grynn: I'll upload some pics..
One more request, if you don't mind:

Can you screencap the part where you initialize the installer, but don't yet start with the installation, like how I did with DN3D?
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Aliasalpha: If they need a hitman I have a good line on psychotic gleeful violence and snappy one liners
Gleeful violence? So they're going to sing about hurting them and autotune it? ;)
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grynn: I'll upload some pics..
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Titanium: One more request, if you don't mind:

Can you screencap the part where you initialize the installer, but don't yet start with the installation, like how I did with DN3D?
sure thing..
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gogsetup.jpg (56 Kb)
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grynn: sure thing..
Thanks. Just wanted to make sure the installer is indeed from the gog workshop, and not a stray icon association.
Reminds me of Tim Langdell crudelly made copies to make it look like he was still selling games. Maybe it's the photograph, but this seriously look like something made with an old-fashioned ink-jet printer.
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hedwards: It's still piracy. Now, if you delete your copy and don't install it again, then it's a gift. But, if you're creating additional copies without paying, then you're pirating.
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cogadh: True, but the method of sharing Kavazov was referring to implied that already, therefore, not piracy. Just as it is completely legal to loan or give a friend a book or movie you own, it is completely legal to loan or give a friend a piece of software.
I suppose, but If so it wasn't very clearly implied. Or at least not that I could discern. It looks too much like the euphemistic term for friends distributing pirate copies to each other.