Vitek: @Red_Baron; Mostly what Zchinque said.
What I see there is defense of not scum hunting as good thing because instead you want to lynch someone just because they are there.
And by saying they should be lynched for making "claims to being something other than just default vanilla, thus they by that admission already should give us more information", you mean they should be voted because they could be power roles?
Yeah, that sounds really pro-town.
Well it has created some brilliant discussion and turned amok on fire :P But more importantly I assume in every game from the get go that everyone is town. When they then claim to be something different I put them down as less likely to be town. So yea, they could be power-roles, however power-roles don't usually instantly reveal themselves. Thus I am thinking Zchinque has a reason for the way he act and suggested in regards to hammering. As we can't trust his words (as none can be trusted on day one other than mod) then lynching is the safest bet. As no targets easily presents themselves as scum on day one, lynching those that do stand out is a good bet.
Why? Well as already explained we have a better chance of getting something out of it. If what amok says is true he is neutral, following that logic Zchinque is likely also a neutral (given his difference from the other). As such it makes perfect sense to lynch on or the other.
On day one its not to our advantage to focus solely on scum hunting, as we have precious little to go on. Instead finding the best target be it the one that we believe we might learn the most from, or find most scummy however unlikely to be true given our record, or something else. I simply suggest going with those most likely to reveal information of a new nature.
And the argument that they have already given that info
does not work. We can't trust it, we need a lynch scene to confirm it. All we know as that they have readily set themselves up to be different. thus they have some sort of agenda for doing so and that leads me to say that we should lynch those who does it. Because a town vanilla would have no reason to set up an agenda, a town power-role would have little need to stand out so early. That pretty much leaves few reasons to do what those two have done. (mod requirement, scum, neutral). So yea - I am willing to vote for both - but as amok is already digging himself into a pit, I figure Zchinque requires the vote for now.
