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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nh2NSLgaII

Of course, google made android, but it's thanks to it's partners (AND the bloody brilliant dev community) that made it into an incredibly expansive and customizable OS.

I'm floored with this, and I have had years with andriod and it's various flashing, rooting, hacking aspects. I understood that mobile tech and software is incredibly, rapidly expanding to full computer laptop/desktop levels but all this wasn't possible just a year ago.

I went in skeptical and ready to pick out the first disadvantage/limitation, compared to a full laptop. There were some, small ones but consistently I was surprised at the usefulness of a device you can fit in your pocket. Yes, you can fit in in your pocket as long as you don't wear those silly skintight jeans.

The ui was choppy at points, and only because he was running a litany of additions, fonts, and two app launchers over stock android, which is buried under samsung's touchwiz skin. All on a gpu that's a year old, smaller then your finger tip and most likely being heavily used at all times. Talk about heavy lifting.

Games rendering is still not great over hdmi, but with A15 arm processors out next year and with even better gpu's coming out, I reckon within a year or two we'll have constant 60 fps ui interaction and 30fps gameplay over hdmi.

I was considering a nexus device upgrade next year to replace my current one but this video has made me seriously think about not following that path. The note 3, complete with 1080p res very well might be better then the google phone.

Now I'm going to watch it again, because dammit why wouldn't you.
That's why I am very excited about Ubuntu Phone. The same OS for phones, tablets and desktops. If they will do it right it would be quite interesting.
But can it run Far Cry 3?
I think this is ok if your PC/Mac breaks and waiting for repairs or new delivery. I personally
don't like this very much. Yes I admit it is advanced and in future phones/tablets (or phablet
in this case for the Note 2) will be able to match with PC a bit. Still I'd prefer to get a PC and a
medium phone. Plus this thing you have to hook it up every time you get home and you go out. it
won't be in your room just to be used as a computer.
I like the Note 2 and S3 as phones/tablets but just can't view them as my home PC.
(Yay i saw my previous phone in there - SE K750i :D)
Post edited January 07, 2013 by mufansne
A lack of proper productivity softeare, and the inability to install pc programs precludes any phone from replacing a pc. I expect windows 8 to break that ground.
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anjohl: A lack of proper productivity softeare, and the inability to install pc programs precludes any
phone from replacing a pc. I expect windows 8 to break that ground.
Doubt it will.

Windows 8 on mobile devices and tablets is akin to Dr Jekyll: a tortured soul hoping for redemption, On a regular PC, Windows 8 is Mr Hyde: a monster that terrorises poor office workers and strangles their productivity.
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mufansne: Plus this thing you have to hook it up every time you get home and you go out. it won't be in your room just to be used as a computer.
Solution: Docking station. Just like one for a laptop, with all the usual ports. LAN, DVI, HDMI, USB, etc.

Expansion on the concept: Tablet docking station. Basically just a touchscreen with a battery that you can slide your smartphone into, effectively making it a tablet.

Now your phone is both your phone, your tablet and your computer.

Of course, the problem is that form factors change all the time, meaning that either you convince the mobile manufacturers to adopt a limited set of form factors, and just keep upgrading the internal hardware, or all the adapter equipment (docks and so forth) will have to be re-bought with each new phone.
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Wishbone: Solution: Docking station. Just like one for a laptop, with all the usual ports. LAN, DVI, HDMI,
USB, etc.
Expansion on the concept: Tablet docking station. Basically just a touchscreen with a battery
that you can slide your smartphone into, effectively making it a tablet.
Now your phone is both your phone, your tablet and your computer.
Of course, the problem is that form factors change all the time, meaning that either you
convince the mobile manufacturers to adopt a limited set of form factors, and just keep
upgrading the internal hardware, or all the adapter equipment (docks and so forth) will have
to be re-bought with each new phone.
Yes a docking station might work, but I am still far from liking that :D

This brings me to the Asus transformer (if the correct brand) Which basicaly is a phone, a tablet and a camera put into the body of a laptop. That idea is kind of good because if you need a laptop then this holds all of your needed gadgets in one place. Whatever you need is at one place. But then if something goes wrong or accidently broken the laptop is gone :D

The other thing is markets shift every day so companies have to adapt. If the consumer likes the idea of a phone replacement for the PC manufacturers will oblige that need and make it happen. I am surpried how Note 2 got so many sales as a phone.(I am more surprised of the size and that Samsung is now making a 6.3 inch Note 3 :D)
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buktu: That's why I am very excited about Ubuntu Phone. The same OS for phones, tablets and desktops. If
they will do it right it would be quite interesting.
Isn't that the problem Windows 8 is facing. The Desktop OS is forced to look like a phone because you want it to seem similar.

And yes. Win8 is really a mess of things. There's windows 8 (for desktops), Windows 8 RT (for ARM based tablets and smartphones) and windows phone 8 (for some smartphones)
WIn8 RT won't run normal win8 software, and normal WIn8 requires an x86 processor which means heat and power consumption goes up and becomes less tablet/phone suitable + suddenly you'll again worry more about system requirements.
And then there's win8 phone which will run neither win8 or win8RT software.

Basically Win8 makes "Windows" almost as fragmented as the phone market was before (Win Phone, Android, iOS, Blackberry)

Ubuntu has already been going more tablet looking, but if they try to make either device run the same as the other, you'll find the desktop is the one getting hurt the most.
The important point here is.
Who says good grief anymore?
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ZYZKryten: The important point here is.
Who says good grief anymore?
Well I COULD be more dramatic (and sweary, which I was when I first saw the vid) in the title of the thread but The gog overlords wouldn't look too favorably upon that, hence good grief. :)
Wait? No one's supposed to say good grief? Next you'll say only people in Demolition Man says "Be well"?
I've just never heard anyone say it outside of a period drama.
I say good grief all the time.

Also, the video I just watched is awesome because there was a split second of Rocko's Modern Life in it.
Post edited January 07, 2013 by Gonchi
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Wishbone: Expansion on the concept: Tablet docking station. Basically just a touchscreen with a battery that you can slide your smartphone into, effectively making it a tablet.
Small update on this concept. Asus beat me to the punch. I just thought it up as a neat idea, but it turns out they had already made it: http://www.asus.com/Mobile/PadFone2/