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I have been provisionally offered a job (yipee)

It is with the Bullfrog Power company in Canada. (Not so yipee)

The relocation package is fair (includes up to 3 business class seats :-) and accomadation for 3 months or until I find my own place ) and id be heavily involved with a planned new venture (dunno what it is yet)

Wage is $50K (Canadian)

I ask about this because im looking at leaving the UK again but Canada wasnt on my list of places (no offence) I dont think I will enjoy working in the energy market again. Nut its a full-time job guarenteed for 3 years (a few conditions) and I wasnt planning on being away that long.

Added to that my other half who I doubt would come till shes finnished Uni if at all due to her being very close to her family im left unsure.

I also dont know about the rules on emigrating to Canada from the UK though im assured that they would handle it and would only need minimal input from myself, They are posting a full contract out but admit it may take 2 weeks to arrive.

What do you guys and girls think?
Speaking for myself, I'd be hard-pressed to relocate across the pond for $50k, especially since it'll involve a separation from the sig other. Are you two married?

You mentioned you're not thrilled working in energy, so that kinda sounds like three strikes - moving that far, the separation, and a field you're not excited about rejoining.

On the other hand, maybe it could morph into a larger opportunity. How does she feel about eventually moving to CA, plus the long-distance? (Time zones can be a bitch with relationships.)
If that is a fair wage for your work I don't know that Canada is worse than the UK in any way (other than it not being "home" I presume).

I'd make sure whatever Visa or whatever you are getting that you'll have the option of making it permanent (if not the job) as after 3 years you may have made a nice life you'd rather not leave.

You didn't say how long your girl had left at Uni. If she's more attached to her family than you then she always will be, as someone who's been through that first hand, it's not something that normally changes. If she's able to come with you, would she be able to get a job? Even if it's unpaid? That could affect her happiness a lot, especially given a shiny, new degree.
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HereForTheBeer: Speaking for myself, I'd be hard-pressed to relocate across the pond for $50k, especially since it'll involve a separation from the sig other. Are you two married?

You mentioned you're not thrilled working in energy, so that kinda sounds like three strikes - moving that far, the separation, and a field you're not excited about rejoining.

On the other hand, maybe it could morph into a larger opportunity. How does she feel about eventually moving to CA, plus the long-distance? (Time zones can be a bitch with relationships.)
I kinda havent mentioned it to her yet, we're not married so I dont need to worrk about getting a divorce :-P

The only reason I even applied for it was cause of the time ive been out of work (back injury in 09 put me in a chair for over a year) and I felt I needed to widen my search to other countries, never expected to get a provisional offer.
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orcishgamer: If that is a fair wage for your work I don't know that Canada is worse than the UK in any way (other than it not being "home" I presume).

I'd make sure whatever Visa or whatever you are getting that you'll have the option of making it permanent (if not the job) as after 3 years you may have made a nice life you'd rather not leave.

You didn't say how long your girl had left at Uni. If she's more attached to her family than you then she always will be, as someone who's been through that first hand, it's not something that normally changes. If she's able to come with you, would she be able to get a job? Even if it's unpaid? That could affect her happiness a lot, especially given a shiny, new degree.
A year come augustish, she would come out with a scottish primary school teaching degree that would allow her to teach basically anywhere except in England.

How close she is to her family is a worry, especially her sister.
Post edited March 31, 2011 by reaver894
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reaver894: I have been provisionally offered a job (yipee)

It is with the Bullfrog Power company in Canada. (Not so yipee)

The relocation package is fair (includes up to 3 business class seats :-) and accomadation for 3 months or until I find my own place ) and id be heavily involved with a planned new venture (dunno what it is yet)

Wage is $50K (Canadian)

I ask about this because im looking at leaving the UK again but Canada wasnt on my list of places (no offence) I dont think I will enjoy working in the energy market again. Nut its a full-time job guarenteed for 3 years (a few conditions) and I wasnt planning on being away that long.

Added to that my other half who I doubt would come till shes finnished Uni if at all due to her being very close to her family im left unsure.

I also dont know about the rules on emigrating to Canada from the UK though im assured that they would handle it and would only need minimal input from myself, They are posting a full contract out but admit it may take 2 weeks to arrive.

What do you guys and girls think?
A new business venture sounds like some project they're test running that may not pan out.

I had a really good sales job with a local distribution company back in Florida under an experimental project that failed and dumped me like a bag of trash.

Also, chics like being close to mum and it might hurt your partner to drag her away from her family.

I rather accept a low paying local job with your SO's income as supplement rather than pulll her far away from her family where she will start to suffer depression and stage yourself as the major (and possibly only) bread winner for a project that might take a big shit three months later.
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reaver894: I have been provisionally offered a job (yipee)

It is with the Bullfrog Power company in Canada. (Not so yipee)

The relocation package is fair (includes up to 3 business class seats :-) and accomadation for 3 months or until I find my own place ) and id be heavily involved with a planned new venture (dunno what it is yet)

Wage is $50K (Canadian)

I ask about this because im looking at leaving the UK again but Canada wasnt on my list of places (no offence) I dont think I will enjoy working in the energy market again. Nut its a full-time job guarenteed for 3 years (a few conditions) and I wasnt planning on being away that long.

Added to that my other half who I doubt would come till shes finnished Uni if at all due to her being very close to her family im left unsure.

I also dont know about the rules on emigrating to Canada from the UK though im assured that they would handle it and would only need minimal input from myself, They are posting a full contract out but admit it may take 2 weeks to arrive.

What do you guys and girls think?
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carnival73: A new business venture sounds like some project they're test running that may not pan out.

I had a really good sales job with a local distribution company back in Florida under an experimental project that failed and dumped me like a bag of trash.

Also, chics like being close to mum and it might hurt your partner to drag her away from her family.

I rather accept a low paying local job with your SO's income as supplement rather than pulll her far away from her family where she will start to suffer depression and stage yourself as the major (and possibly only) bread winner for a project that might take a big shit three months later.
She has no contact with her mum, its her sister and her nan. I did ask about if the project went belly up what would happen and I'd get moved to another department (possibly a pay cut dependant on where im put) but I take that with a pinch of salt.

Edit: Id also need to buy an NTSC Xbox or PS3 I guess
Post edited March 31, 2011 by reaver894
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carnival73: A new business venture sounds like some project they're test running that may not pan out.

I had a really good sales job with a local distribution company back in Florida under an experimental project that failed and dumped me like a bag of trash.

Also, chics like being close to mum and it might hurt your partner to drag her away from her family.

I rather accept a low paying local job with your SO's income as supplement rather than pulll her far away from her family where she will start to suffer depression and stage yourself as the major (and possibly only) bread winner for a project that might take a big shit three months later.
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reaver894: She has no contact with her mum, its her sister and her nan. I did ask about if the project went belly up what would happen and I'd get moved to another department (possibly a pay cut dependant on where im put) but I take that with a pinch of salt.

Edit: Id also need to buy an NTSC Xbox or PS3 I guess
If you can get a PAL compatible TV - American power cords should work with your PAL system.

At least that's how it worked for my NTSC PS2 when I brought it here from New Zealand.

I'd really pick your SO's feelings on this one because if she's a good girl she's worth more than this far away opportunity.
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reaver894: She has no contact with her mum, its her sister and her nan. I did ask about if the project went belly up what would happen and I'd get moved to another department (possibly a pay cut dependant on where im put) but I take that with a pinch of salt.

Edit: Id also need to buy an NTSC Xbox or PS3 I guess
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carnival73: If you can get a PAL compatible TV - American power cords should work with your PAL system.

At least that's how it worked for my NTSC PS2 when I brought it here from New Zealand.

I'd really pick your SO's feelings on this one because if she's a good girl she's worth more than this far away opportunity.
I think your right, Id better have a word with her, if im not back in a bit you know she's opened up a can of whoop-ass on me, in which case GOG please donate my beloved account to someone :-P
I may be a little jaded here but don't base your whole decision on what your girlfriend says.

It's better to take a leap and take the job, because if the sentiments between you guys are strong things will work out. Visits, relocation, a breakup are all viable options.

Now, I think that being selfish is a good thing; think of it this way: would you rather stay there and not have a job? Consider that the relationship may fail just as well if you're there as if you were in Canada. Or would you rather take a chance and try to build a better life for both you and your special someone?

Yes, emotions are important, but this is too much of a personal decision that will influence the rest of your life, no matter if you share it with someone or not, to let them get in your way.

Think of how your life can change for the better if you take the job and how it could take a turn for the worse; then think of how your life can change for the better or worse if you don't take it.

And most importantly, if you end up with a draw between them take the leap!
I agree with DrewC,

Take that leap. Every time I've moved job I've played relocation roulette, where I find the best job, and go there. Truthfully, the place is usually somewhere I quite like, but the job is all. You spend a massive part of your life at work, so make sure you like it. With that in mind, I suspect your partner will understand, I've known many long distance relationships work, and it's not like you can never return. If things go bad, just come back.


As for Canada - wasn't on you list? It's number one on mine. If I look abroad, that's where I'm hoping I'm heading (however it really depends on where the roulette table tells me).
Itsa me Mario...

Well it went better than I expected, (no shouting)

I was sneaky and went along the lines of a hypothetical situation. then explained it wasnt so hypothetical.

She will not move to a country that far away. If it was France, Germany, Spain.. thats fine (Apparently Thailand is ok too???? dont ask me)

She also made a good point in that I tend to go to a country for a few months, then come back to Scotland so the chances of me stating for a 3 year term is somewhere between slim and none.

All in all I dont think I'll go but I will wait until I read the contract and other stuff for a Visa and relocation stuff first. all but the final nail in the proverbial coffin for this one I think.