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Posted April 18, 2011
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Miaghstir: Here you go, now join the effort in completing it.
Haha, I was going to post exactly this.
Posted April 18, 2011
Nah, lets not to preserve our sanity.
Posted April 18, 2011
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Miaghstir: Here you go, now join the effort in completing it.
Came here to post this. Have an upv... it's not reddit.
Posted April 19, 2011
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gman3050: Did you like how about GOG build a new OS ?
I think you are drastically overestimating the capabilities of our dev team. ;)

edit: used the wrong word 'cause I haven't had my morning tea yet.
Post edited April 19, 2011 by TheEnigmaticT
Posted April 19, 2011
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hedwards: I forget how exactly that worked out. But Xerox ended up suing over the issue.

Apple was never a licensee, Xerox filed suit during the proceedings where Apple sued MS over the look and feel issue. Xerox ended up suing because if precedent was going to be set for copyright covering look and feel it felt entitled to money from Apple since there wasn't ever a license involved.

Basically, Xerox let the Apple folks in for research purposes. Which is more or less just as stupid as what you were suggesting.
The situation is even more muddled: To quote from Wikipedia:
Xerox was allowed to buy pre-IPO stock from Apple, in exchange for engineer visits and an understanding that Apple would create a GUI product. Much later, in the midst of the Apple v. Microsoft lawsuit in which Apple accused Microsoft of violating its copyright by appropriating the use of the "look and feel" of the Macintosh GUI, Xerox also sued Apple on the same grounds. The lawsuit was dismissed because the presiding judge ruled "that Xerox's complaints were inappropriate for a variety of legal reasons," although it is commonly believed that Xerox simply waited too long to file suit, and the statute of limitations had expired. This was not actually true; the dismissal of Xerox's legal complaint was not based simply on late filings, but rather a lack of legal merit to Xerox's case as it was presented.
^ Pollack, Andrew (1990-03-24). "Most of Xerox's Suit Against Apple Barred". The New York Times. Retrieved 2008-12-01.

Again gotten pretty much from Wikipedia:

Apple actually did license part of its GUI to MS, which when MS expanded the GUI, Apple sued them over because parts of the expansion that were similar to Apple's were not in the original license. In the end, the only thing Apple won in the case against MS was over the trash can GUI. All other items were deemed to be covered by the original license, an obvious expansion or the intuitive way of performing something, or deemed to be copies from elsewhere. Apple's argument of it being a holistic argument failed as the courts decided that the case should be judged on piecemeal basis.

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But getting back to the subject at hand and not a dispute settled long ago in a galaxy ... our galaxy, @OP I think you'd like to get involved with ReactOS as others have pointed out. :)
Post edited April 19, 2011 by crazy_dave
Posted April 19, 2011
Why not just buy a PC for less than $100 that still runs on MS-DOS / Win 95 and save us all the trouble.
Posted April 19, 2011
Netbooks make for perfect old games machines. I've put a barebones Linux distro on mine that goes straight into DOSBox.
Posted April 19, 2011
i just searched craigslist for windows 98 and bought a laptop (omnibook 900) for around $50.

it has win98se on it and so far i've installed carmageddon+splat pack, redneck rampage, blood, grim fandango, simtower, simtunes, widget workshop, chasm - the rift and a few others. i don't think GOG setup exes can even be opened but i didn't really expect them to work. it's really fun to have an old pc
Posted April 19, 2011
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FraterPerdurabo: Why not just buy a PC for less than $100 that still runs on MS-DOS / Win 95 and save us all the trouble.
THIS!
Posted April 19, 2011
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Gremmi: I've discovered through DOSBox and GOG that part of the nostalgia factor for me -was- the hassle. Sometimes tweaking autoexec.bats and config.syses for each individual game was more satisfying than the game itself.

I remember a particularly bizarre method of getting Leisure Suit Larry 6 SVGA CD to run - I had to use a specific boot disk, then launch the game which would then crash, reboot with the same boot disk, then the game would launch fine.
I have to agree with this. It was almost like figuring out how to get the game to run was the challenge and playing the game was the reward.

I've grown bored with Linux for the same reason. It used to be "Oooh, a new OS version is out, I wonder what they broke this time that I going to have spend many days researching and fixing!" Now it's like "Ooh, a new OS version is out... dammit! Everything just works!"

ONTOPIC: To the OP, as others have stated, I don't think you understand what is really involved in developing an OS, especially one that can run both outdated and obsolete software as well as the latest and greatest. There's a reason we need to use emulator software like DOSBox, and ScummVM to run some of the games from GOG and its not just that modern OSes are incompatible, its that computers have evolved well past the abilities of the old OSes those products used to run on. Besides, since those emulator applications already exist and work perfectly fine with every OS out there, what need is there for a whole new OS that does the same thing they do? You'd basically be "re-inventing the wheel".... technically re-inventing it again, since DOSBox and ScummVM already re-invented it once.
Post edited April 19, 2011 by cogadh
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