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StingingVelvet: I've been posting on here pretty much exclusively the last year. I dabble on Steam forums and used to post on NVNews and WSGF. Anyway that's all PC stuff.

I've got a nice new Xbox waiting for me back in the States for when I go home in a month. I want to talk about console stuff at this point, and here is not the place for it (no offense but most of you are annoying PC elitists).

So what's a good console forum? One without a lot of teenage dipshits, if possible. I post rarely on Giantbomb but that seems like a surprisingly slow forum for such a popular website, also I dislike the structure of it. I know gametrailers and gamefaqs are horrible, so don't suggest those.
You could try geezer gamers, I think they're predominately console players and, as the name implies, older, though not always geezers.
Best one imo is http://www.xbox360achievements.org/

Has a lot of news and guides and also has a section with every game.

Often has video guides for each game and as most of the people there are hooked on getting gamerscore they tend to be less childish if you or they need any help
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FAButzke: HA! Good luck with that. Another problem with console gaming is the children that use them.
I hope you're kidding because this right here is the shit people find so annoying about PC elitists...

It's quite clearly not true, as any gamer with kids will tell you, consoles are the ideal platform for a parent who has no time to dick with getting their games working; that being one among many mature groups of people who play on console.
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ViolatorX: Best one imo is http://www.xbox360achievements.org/
This is a great site, though I do run across trolling from time to time, most of the posts are helpful and constructive. I never post there but I do look up quite a few guides, etc., when I am stuck.
Post edited April 30, 2012 by orcishgamer
Eurogamer makes you wait 7 days to start posting after registering. WTF.
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StingingVelvet: Eurogamer makes you wait 7 days to start posting after registering. WTF.
Consider this a good sign. Much less account spamming.
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StingingVelvet: Eurogamer makes you wait 7 days to start posting after registering. WTF.
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SimonG: Consider this a good sign. Much less account spamming.
Why? If you wanted multiple accounts all you have to do is keep the registrations rolling, with the ones you registered 7 days ago coming active that day.
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orcishgamer: I hope you're kidding because this right here is the shit people find so annoying about PC elitists...

It's quite clearly not true, as any gamer with kids will tell you, consoles are the ideal platform for a parent who has no time to dick with getting their games working; that being one among many mature groups of people who play on console.
Sadly, no. I'm not kidding. But I also won't be discussing it any further. Although I'm hoping you were kidding about the "one among many mature groups of people who play on console". Probably not though, right? Ah fuckit, I don't care.
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orcishgamer: I hope you're kidding because this right here is the shit people find so annoying about PC elitists...

It's quite clearly not true, as any gamer with kids will tell you, consoles are the ideal platform for a parent who has no time to dick with getting their games working; that being one among many mature groups of people who play on console.
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FAButzke: Sadly, no. I'm not kidding. But I also won't be discussing it any further. Although I'm hoping you were kidding about the "one among many mature groups of people who play on console". Probably not though, right? Ah fuckit, I don't care.
You realize you're illustrating the very elitism that StingingVelvet was talking about in his OP, right? You, and people like you, are the reason it's so unpleasant to actually bring up consoles in so many corners of the internet. The funny thing is, the reverse isn't really true, bring up PCs on a console forum and you'll find a bunch of "meh" or "I game on PC too". And the truly sad irony is that you're actually wrong.

But, don't let the hoards of middle aged and older console players get in the way of your worldview;)
Post edited May 01, 2012 by orcishgamer
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FAButzke: Sadly, no. I'm not kidding. But I also won't be discussing it any further. Although I'm hoping you were kidding about the "one among many mature groups of people who play on console". Probably not though, right? Ah fuckit, I don't care.
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orcishgamer: You realize you're illustrating the very elitism that StingingVelvet was talking about in his OP, right? You, and people like you, are the reason it's so unpleasant to actually bring up consoles in so many corners of the internet. The funny thing is, the reverse isn't really true, bring up PCs on a console forum and you'll find a bunch of "meh" or "I game on PC too". And the truly sad irony is that you're actually wrong.

But, don't let the hoards of middle aged and older console players get in the way of your worldview;)
My experience tells me otherwise.
And I'm sorry but consoles (and people who support them) are unpleasant not me. Consoles used to be good now they are dumbfied computers to the (mostly dumb) masses. As I've said before: I'm old enough to not care about this anymore. So, let's just drop it.
I'll just say this:
People like you and StingingVelvet (who appear to be intelligent yet still support this kind of bullshit) are the reason why we don't move forward (technical wise). We're still playing games developed for hardware and software that is 7 years old now and that's unaceptable. Or it was. You (and all the others) can game on your 386 made console for all I care. I won't reply to any other comment about this because I've wasted enough of my time already.
Post edited May 02, 2012 by FAButzke
I doubt a better example of what I'm trying to get away from exists without delving into caricature. Thanks FAButzke!
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StingingVelvet: I doubt a better example of what I'm trying to get away from exists without delving into caricature. Thanks FAButzke!
You're welcome buddy. ;)
/r/truegaming
Post edited May 02, 2012 by EC-
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FAButzke: My experience tells me otherwise.
Oh, well why didn't you say you had anecdotal evidence (the best kind, as we all know!)?
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FAButzke: People like you and StingingVelvet (who appear to be intelligent yet still support this kind of bullshit) are the reason why we don't move forward (technical wise). We're still playing games developed for hardware and software that is 7 years old now and that's unaceptable.
While I agree that PC gaming should be better than it is, I think your conclusions are insane, go look at the thread about about "not buying games new". Every time the subject comes up all the PC gamers jump up and say how they're happy to never have to pay over 5 USD for a game. Lmao, maybe, just maybe, THAT'S what is keeping super special PC games from coming out. You wouldn't have fuck all to play in the last 3-4 years if the console players hadn't been subsidizing most of it for you (okay, I'm exaggerating, but you'd have maybe 20% of the currently available titles).

And since when on a classic gaming site do we e-peen about the latest games and hardware advancements being the sum total of gaming? Seriously? Hell, you look at the most innovative PC only games in the last few years and almost a big fat ZERO of them have required massive juice to run. Minecraft would run on my phone! And it's nearly always been this way, many, if not most, of the best PC games never pushed the envelope at all as far as hardware goes, just troll through the biggest hits on GOG to convince yourself: Arcanum, BG, Serious Sam, etc., almost all the best games had really modest specs, if not downright a bit behind the times (Diablo 2, anyone?).

But I get it, it's easier to blame "consolization" and/or terrorists than to take a good hard look in the mirror and own up to reality.

And I have yet to hear why console play is "bullshit", according to you it's now apparently the consoles themselves that are the problem, not just the players?
Shit man, why bother?
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StingingVelvet: Shit man, why bother?
Well, I suppose he's doing a fine job of arguing my thesis for me, so good point;)