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Posted June 14, 2011
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kodeen: You have a point in cases where Lulzsec penetrates a site's defenses, which were weaker than they should have been. But these are just DDOS's. Protecting yourself from those is about as easy as protecting yourself from random strangers popping up from behind trees and punching you in the face while you take a stroll in the park.
I agree, DDoS-ing is stupid.
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crazy_dave: I think the first rule of the internet is that you don't trust anyone with your details - I may give them out, but I don't trust them with it. There are some who have personal details by default (banks, government, etc ...) and there's little that can be done about that. For the rest, one might give out personal details for commerce or other reasons, but one should always treat information given out on the web to anyone as vulnerable. Anyone can be hacked. This is one reason why I like that GOG doesn't store much if anything about me.
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Post edited June 14, 2011 by KavazovAngel
Posted June 14, 2011
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eyeball226: Minecraft has been DDoS'd before anyway.
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Wishbone: Until fairly recently, it seemed Minecraft routinely DDoS'ed itself ;-)
Hehe.
Posted June 14, 2011
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overread: Any system can be hacked just as pretty much any lock can be picked if you spend enough time and have the right tools and skills. Also this published hacking side is nothing more than scarmongering or attention seeking - it benefits no one and just serves to heighten internet fears and possible also result in a massive clampdown on things.
But the point is that they release info on whether they've successfully hacked into the system, allowing you to act in case your details have been leaked.

The "bad" hackers don't release this kind of info, and just use your details immediately.

If I have to choose, I'll gladly choose the first, because I'll know that my details have been discovered, instead of the second, that could possibly make me wonder when exactly I bought a house in southern China last month. :D
Posted June 14, 2011
So that's why eve's not working. Very annoying. Hopefully we'll get some free skill points if it lasts for a while.
Post edited June 14, 2011 by Salsa_Shark
Posted June 14, 2011
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overread: Any system can be hacked just as pretty much any lock can be picked if you spend enough time and have the right tools and skills. Also this published hacking side is nothing more than scarmongering or attention seeking - it benefits no one and just serves to heighten internet fears and possible also result in a massive clampdown on things.
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KavazovAngel: But the point is that they release info on whether they've successfully hacked into the system, allowing you to act in case your details have been leaked.

The "bad" hackers don't release this kind of info, and just use your details immediately.

If I have to choose, I'll gladly choose the first, because I'll know that my details have been discovered, instead of the second, that could possibly make me wonder when exactly I bought a house in southern China last month. :D
If I had to choose I'd go for neither. Whilst random hacking into systems can expose security flaws, when found the company itself should be approached in private - not blackmailed with the release of data.
In addition - as I said - any system can be compromised so all the hackers do is break in and lol about it (or blackmail) - heck in the period of time between their announcement of how to hack the system (which can often leave a trail of gates open in their wake) and when the owners take it down "real" hackers can get in and steal the data.
Posted June 14, 2011
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KavazovAngel: But the point is that they release info on whether they've successfully hacked into the system, allowing you to act in case your details have been leaked.
They would be more impressive if they published their failures as well as their successes.
Posted June 14, 2011
By the way is it confirmed that they DDoSed EVE too? I'm fairly worried since EVE stores my credit card details, and I'd really be loathe to think of the consequences if they did more than just DDoS CCP's servers.
Post edited June 14, 2011 by lowyhong
Posted June 14, 2011
Hmm . No one asked them to take down Steam ?
Posted June 14, 2011
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ne_zavarj: Hmm . No one asked them to take down Steam ?
The biggest gaming related targets I can think of are Battle.net, Steam and Xbox Live. I'm surprised they didn't go for them instead of Minecraft.
Post edited June 14, 2011 by OmegaX
Posted June 14, 2011
They also took down the Escapist with a DDoS. Because the Escapist community had a thread on them. So yea, lets just not provoke them here. :P
Posted June 14, 2011
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lowyhong: By the way is it confirmed that they DDoSed EVE too? I'm fairly worried since EVE stores my credit card details, and I'd really be loathe to think of the consequences if they did more than just DDoS CCP's servers.
As far as I know they're the good type of hackers.
They just take an unimportant file, so they can show "Hey, there's a leak!" and the companies can fix it.
I don't think that they have stolen anything like credit card details.
In case you're worried you can check the bill and report to the bank, if something is missing.
Posted June 14, 2011
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lowyhong: By the way is it confirmed that they DDoSed EVE too? I'm fairly worried since EVE stores my credit card details, and I'd really be loathe to think of the consequences if they did more than just DDoS CCP's servers.
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DebugMode: As far as I know they're the good type of hackers.
They just take an unimportant file, so they can show "Hey, there's a leak!" and the companies can fix it.
I don't think that they have stolen anything like credit card details.
In case you're worried you can check the bill and report to the bank, if something is missing.
But that is like taking a crowbar to someones front door just to show that you can break in ... its not really nice even if you don't take anything; you've still broken the door
Posted June 14, 2011
Childish assholes with a messiah complex.
Posted June 14, 2011
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OmegaX: The biggest gaming related targets I can think of are Battle.net, Steam and Xbox Live. I'm surprised they didn't go for them instead of Minecraft.
People asked them to go after Minecraft. Check out their tweets. Grrrrr.

Maybe they attacked Microsoft / Steam / Battle.Net, and failed, but are too "high" to publish that.
Posted June 14, 2011
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overread: But that is like taking a crowbar to someones front door just to show that you can break in ... its not really nice even if you don't take anything; you've still broken the door
True.
I just wanted to calm down lowyhong, who was worried about his credit data.
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