brother-eros: I couldn't disagree more. We mention BG2 and PS:T not just because we love them, but because they ARE replayable, I've played both at least half a dozen times, BG2 more than that, and these are long, interesting involving games.
This is more so when you consider the scope of the games, a few weeks, or maybe months, on an RPG, vs an hour on another map of an RTS. Don't get me wrong, on my post up there I spoke about some RTS like the OP had asked, and some can be replayed every so often for years. I still play Master of Magic, but would I play it every day for weeks straight? No. BG2 and PS:T I would, and have, again and again.
I guess it comes down to personal preference. HoMM 2 I finished once and couldn't wait to uninstall, but I understand many people find it very replayable. Like you I played Arcanum only twice, but can understand that the potential for replayability is there.
I don't mean to attack you personally, but a lot of us feel there is a lot of replayability in those games. BladeofBG mentioned a lot of reasons for this, and my own personal experience agrees.
Great post, and I couldn't agree more.
I've gone through PS:T and the Fallout series many times and I've never considered myself 'done' with them. This is especially true for Planescape, as there is such a massive amount of content in that game - quests, jokes, hidden references, secret places and dialogue in almost obscene amounts. As for Baldurs Gate 2, like I mentioned in another thread, I've gone through that game 37 times and started it more times than I care to count (or could, I was never good at theoretical maths) and to this day I still occasionally find new quests, or a new way to solve an old one.
Narwhal: Some of the games mentionned here are NOT replayable at all, or not so replayable. It is not because you like a game that you have to mention it in every "advise me" thread. No, BG1, Fallout and Fallout 2, for instance, are NOT replayable. They can be played once - maybe twice (and then not even BG1), certainly not three times while still being interesting for most of us.
Even Planescape Tourment, the best RPG in my opinion, is not very replayable. After one or two playthrough, most of us will shelve it as the few items they "missed" are not worth yet another playthrough.
The only RPGs I know that are highly replayable are NWN, due to the massive amount of user-made content, and maybe, maybe, Arcanum, due to both the massive impact of your build on the gameplay and the sheer amount of comment. I never bothered playing it more than twice myself, but I understand someone would.
Never played BG2, so I cannot comment.
Perhaps we simply have different philosophies as regards what makes an RPG attractive.
When I've done every quest and sidequest available in, say, Zelda, I might well consider myself done with that game, at least for a conceivable period of time - But I don't think I could ever think about games like Planescape or Baldur's gate that way. That said, now we're arguing styles of play and, like eros said, preference.
If a game can immerse me in the world through plot, characters and dialogue, then I will likely come back for more. Even if the gameplay is repetitive or, indeed, does not change at all, such as in many old adventure games. Even if I've claimed all the 'items' in a game such as Uncharted, or completed every quest in Fallout - it's not something that, by itself, will keep me from replaying a game.
In the end, I suppose, I guess our opinions simply differ on this matter.
Go play BG2, even if it won't make you change your mind, I'm loathe to let any fan of RPG's get away with not playing it.