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Posted May 18, 2012
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Licurg: All of you who think this is a conspiracy 'theory" should read this:


http://www.infowars.com/monsantos-roundup-continuously-shown-to-cause-birth-defects/



And this:




http://www.infowars.com/4-year-old-girl-accused-by-tsa-of-having-gun-subjected-to-full-body-pat-down/


Anybody who can't see what the world is turning into deserves what awaits him.
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Elmofongo: My mother said something about Monsanto too she said something about monopolizing food seeds by genetically altering their DNA so it cannot reproduce
It's not just trying to own all the food in the world, but also that the GMOs have severe health effects, they cause cancer, sterility, brain damage, malformations in new-borns, and many other diseases.
Posted May 18, 2012
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Elmofongo: My mother said something about Monsanto too she said something about monopolizing food seeds by genetically altering their DNA so it cannot reproduce
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Licurg: It's not just trying to own all the food in the world, but also that the GMOs have severe health effects, they cause cancer, sterility, brain damage, malformations in new-borns, and many other diseases.
and let me guess all of this is un-evidenced, bullshit theories by paranoid people
Posted May 18, 2012
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JudasIscariot: "OK, honey, I am LETTING LOOSE THE DOGS OF WAR...be back in a few!"
Sometimes i take them to the riverside for a walk, but i never let them cross the stream.
Posted May 18, 2012
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Licurg: It's not just trying to own all the food in the world, but also that the GMOs have severe health effects, they cause cancer, sterility, brain damage, malformations in new-borns, and many other diseases.
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Elmofongo: and let me guess all of this is un-evidenced, bullshit theories by paranoid people
No, they made tests. A hungarian scientist working in England called Alfred Pusztai did a test, where he had mice fed with only GMO potatoes and mice fed only natural potatoes. After 3 generations, the mice fed with GMOs suffered from sterility and organ failure.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAKDx2XmItY&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLE57EC929810A38D8
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Posted May 18, 2012
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Elmofongo: and let me guess all of this is un-evidenced, bullshit theories by paranoid people
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Licurg:
and yet goverments of the world are not going to stop that from happening since monsanto will just lobby (bribe) governments to not stop them even though we are all eating the same cancer ridden gmo food including monsanto.............they really don't care about their only lives do they?
Posted May 18, 2012
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Licurg:
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Elmofongo: and yet goverments of the world are not going to stop that from happening since monsanto will just lobby (bribe) governments to not stop them even though we are all eating the same cancer ridden gmo food including monsanto.............they really don't care about their only lives do they?
Actually they're not eating them. A memo leaked from Monsanto shows that all the food at their cafeterias is organic, and that they don't eat the stuff themselves.
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Licurg:
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Elmofongo: and yet goverments of the world are not going to stop that from happening since monsanto will just lobby (bribe) governments to not stop them even though we are all eating the same cancer ridden gmo food including monsanto.............they really don't care about their only lives do they?
Read this:



http://www.infowars.com/monsanto-employees-dont-eat-gmos/
Post edited May 18, 2012 by Licurg
Posted May 18, 2012
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Elmofongo: and yet goverments of the world are not going to stop that from happening since monsanto will just lobby (bribe) governments to not stop them even though we are all eating the same cancer ridden gmo food including monsanto.............they really don't care about their only lives do they?
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Licurg: Actually they're not eating them. A memo leaked from Monsanto shows that all the food at their cafeterias is organic, and that they don't eat the stuff themselves.
of course they don't and they expect us to eat overpriced monpolized food thats deadly to eat anyways and say we are not entitled to clean organic food and say we have to make are own food. thats it I fucking hate the human race.
Post edited May 18, 2012 by Elmofongo
Posted May 18, 2012
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Licurg: Actually they're not eating them. A memo leaked from Monsanto shows that all the food at their cafeterias is organic, and that they don't eat the stuff themselves.
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Elmofongo: of course they don't and they expect us to eat overpriced monpolized food thats deadly to eat anyways and say we are not entitled to clean organic food and say we have to make are own food. thats it I fucking hate the human race.
So... are you convinced your mother's right?:P
Posted May 18, 2012
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Licurg: No, they made tests. A hungarian scientist working in England called Alfred Pusztai did a test, where he had mice fed with only GMO potatoes and mice fed only natural potatoes. After 3 generations, the mice fed with GMOs suffered from sterility and organ failure.
Okay, some obvious questions:

1. Who exactly are the "they" that made the tests?

2. Who funded the tests?

3. In which peer-reviewed science journals were the results published?

4. What happened to the mice who got fed "natural" potatos?

5. Were the mouse populations in the experimental group and in the experimental group comparable, and which precautions were taken to assure that?

6. Which precautions where taken to prevent the organ failures to be just artifacts from the in-breeding? Which kinds post-hoc analysis were performed to assure that the cause of the malfunctions matched the hypothesis of the researchers?

7. Where are the objective results of the test, there ought to be at least some probability tests and a statistically valid comparison against the control group. Against which level of probability has the test been performed?

8. Did the test procedure adhere to a double-blind setup (this is an absolute necessity for tests like this)?

9. Have the results been replicated by other scientists (and if yes, by whom, and where have they published their results)?
Posted May 18, 2012
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Elmofongo: of course they don't and they expect us to eat overpriced monpolized food thats deadly to eat anyways and say we are not entitled to clean organic food and say we have to make are own food. thats it I fucking hate the human race.
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Licurg: So... are you convinced your mother's right?:P
she went as far as saying monsanto could rule the world doing this
Posted May 18, 2012
Only read the OP and a couple later posts, but here is my advice to you.

Like Gazoinks said, you should look into this stuff. Just to have some, I guess, middle ground in which to talk with her.

Granted, I love me a good story involving such secret puppet master entities, I do not believe they have such great power as they do in stories about them. Maybe they do, I've no idea.

I'm sure there is some way to convince her otherwise, that they (secret global cults) are either fabricated, or do exist, but not in the way she seems to believe.....

Hey, maybe you will get your first chance to use your political debating skillz!!

EDIT: JudasIscariot, I hope your GF is bat-shit hot to go along with the bat-shit (even if temporary) crazy ;) Pics or it didn't happen!
Post edited May 18, 2012 by JTD121
Posted May 18, 2012
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JTD121: Only read the OP and a couple later posts, but here is my advice to you.

Like Gazoinks said, you should look into this stuff. Just to have some, I guess, middle ground in which to talk with her.

Granted, I love me a good story involving such secret puppet master entities, I do not believe they have such great power as they do in stories about them. Maybe they do, I've no idea.

I'm sure there is some way to convince her otherwise, that they (secret global cults) are either fabricated, or do exist, but not in the way she seems to believe.....

Hey, maybe you will get your first chance to use your political debating skillz!!
I already convinced her and now she is fine................I'M SERIOUS
Posted May 18, 2012
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Licurg: No, they made tests. A hungarian scientist working in England called Alfred Pusztai did a test, where he had mice fed with only GMO potatoes and mice fed only natural potatoes. After 3 generations, the mice fed with GMOs suffered from sterility and organ failure.
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Psyringe: Okay, some obvious questions:

1. Who exactly are the "they" that made the tests?

2. Who funded the tests?

3. In which peer-reviewed science journals were the results published?

4. What happened to the mice who got fed "natural" potatos?

5. Were the mouse populations in the experimental group and in the experimental group comparable, and which precautions were taken to assure that?

6. Which precautions where taken to prevent the organ failures to be just artifacts from the in-breeding? Which kinds post-hoc analysis were performed to assure that the cause of the malfunctions matched the hypothesis of the researchers?

7. Where are the objective results of the test, there ought to be at least some probability tests and a statistically valid comparison against the control group. Against which level of probability has the test been performed?

8. Did the test procedure adhere to a double-blind setup (this is an absolute necessity for tests like this)?

9. Have the results been replicated by other scientists (and if yes, by whom, and where have they published their results)?
This link should answer most of your questions:



http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_11361.cfm
Posted May 18, 2012
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Licurg: This link should answer most of your questions:
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_11361.cfm
I was not asking for a link, I was asking for answers. So far you haven't provided any. So? :)
Posted May 18, 2012
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Licurg: This link should answer most of your questions:
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_11361.cfm
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Psyringe: I was not asking for a link, I was asking for answers. So far you haven't provided any. So? :)
Why write a 50-60 line reply when reading that link i just gave you has all the answers and references you need?
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