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Posted September 29, 2010
People on Amazon hates Civ 5 because of Steam.

http://www.amazon.com/Sid-Meiers-Civilization-V-Pc/product-reviews/B0038TT8QM/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_1?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar

Of course, they also blame gameplay changes, but users blame/complain/mention Steam a lot of time.

A reason why GoGs DRM free model rules!!!!!!
Posted September 29, 2010
I wont buy Civ5 because of Steam.
Post edited September 29, 2010 by tryingnewstyle
Posted September 29, 2010
I'm not surprised, I never bother with amazon user reviews, precisely because of the amount of whining the section contains. The console exclusives reviews are horrible to read sometimes, simply because it turns into a fanboy mess.
Post edited September 29, 2010 by mushy101
Posted September 29, 2010
I'm not surprised. Amazon reviewers have probably been the most consistently vocal anti-DRM bunch on the net. Far more so than anything you'd find here.

Ultimately it's largely invalidated Amazon as a source of user reviews.
Posted September 29, 2010
Last I looked GoG doesn't sell Civ5.

I have over 100 games on steam, and many more here, at Gamersgate, and Impulse. They all have their pros and cons.

Isn't Civ5 the most played game on Steam now? For every one of those who complain on Amazon (of all places), there's hundreds if not thousands who are quite happy.
The only problem (as it seems we must find one) is that steam seems to polarise opinion somewhat and generate endless pointless debate, and forum fillers like this post.
Posted September 29, 2010
different people , different taste
Posted September 29, 2010
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Navagon: I'm not surprised. Amazon reviewers have probably been the most consistently vocal anti-DRM bunch on the net. Far more so than anything you'd find here.
Well it makes sense, people who buy on amazon are likely the people who still want a box, who still view PC games as products, who want to keep the game forever, who are collectors, etc.. It makes sense those kinds of people, who I am one of, would be resistant to Steam and DRM in general.

That said the way they spam reviews of 1 or 2 stars over DRM is stupid.
Posted September 29, 2010
Some of the reviews are out right lying about the game even, others seem to have not looked at the changes civ 4 players should know section.. eg.

"The functionality of the great leaders has been seriously reduced to the point where I dont care that much if a generate any great leaders. "

did he not realise they effect tiles not cities now?? you only ever need 1 to trigger a GA, they all have special improvements for tiles, each has a special ability in keeping with their type. The culture bomb for example is a great improvement with the changes to how cities expand and can convert cities if used right.
Posted September 29, 2010
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StingingVelvet: That said the way they spam reviews of 1 or 2 stars over DRM is stupid.
But unfortunately that's what it boils down to. I've even seen raging over things like disc checks. They're well into self-parodying territory now.

A comprehensive review should mention DRM so as to ensure that people know what they're in for in that regard. But most of the time on Amazon it seems to be the only point of consideration.
Posted September 29, 2010
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wodmarach: Some of the reviews are out right lying about the game even, others seem to have not looked at the changes civ 4 players should know section.. eg.

"The functionality of the great leaders has been seriously reduced to the point where I dont care that much if a generate any great leaders. "

did he not realise they effect tiles not cities now?? you only ever need 1 to trigger a GA, they all have special improvements for tiles, each has a special ability in keeping with their type. The culture bomb for example is a great improvement with the changes to how cities expand and can convert cities if used right.
People have been misrepresenting Civ5 on forums and in user reviews quite a lot. They made a lot of changes from Civ4 and rather than understand a lot of them people just assume everything was ripped out of the game. I've seen a few people say money no longer matters which is ridiculous, as money is more important than ever. They had no idea you could use money to buy tiles or units.
Posted September 29, 2010
A lot of people on Amazon never even play the game and just complain about steam. I don't like DRM either but steam is the most reasonable of all the drm schemes because it's a single client required for all your games (well for the most part since some steam games still require additional 3rd party drm). For most games who don't have additional drm in top of steam, it's far superior than having a glut of different drm schemes littering your computer. It also makes uninstalls much easier instead of having various drm registry entries still floating around on your system.
Post edited September 29, 2010 by Kabuto
Posted September 29, 2010
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StingingVelvet: Well it makes sense, people who buy on amazon are likely the people who still want a box, who still view PC games as products, who want to keep the game forever, who are collectors, etc..
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they prefer the old gameplay over the new ( just like i do with DoW + it's expansions over DoW II )
Post edited September 29, 2010 by lackoo1111
Posted September 29, 2010
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Navagon: Ultimately it's largely invalidated Amazon as a source of user reviews.
Sad really, because I used to use the Amazon reviews as a gauging point but nowadays i don't even bother. I'll check metacritic or gamerankings to get an idea but most of the times I'll just ask around on forums for people's opinions.

Then again, I haven't bought games from Amazon in a while. It has to be wicked low or the boxed copy must be truly cool for me to bother. I considered fetching the Witcher collectors edition uncensored uncut director thingie since it looked like it had a lot of goodies in a cool box, but i think I'll wait till i see it here on GOG.
Posted September 29, 2010
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Posted September 29, 2010
Whenever I buy a new game in store/online I always check if it requires Steam. Unfortunately, I missed it once and ended up buying Dawn of War that I simply refuse to install. That reminds me I should sell it on ebay...
Post edited September 29, 2010 by gulldarek
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