The game is good and the price is right. Certainly not an insta-buy for me. But only because I already have a fully working copy of the game.

Damn! Discworld! Thanks for reminding me. That was an awesome game. ^_^ Now I just took the thread off topic. ^_^

/backs away slowly with a smile
Yup same here. The $15 price tag is a bit too high. I'll get it around $5 to $7 though.

Yet in many release threads and other discussions, certain posters continually insist that:

- DRM-free isn't worth it
- Extras like soundtracks aren't worth it
- Sales aren't cheap enough
- Retail prices aren't cheap enough
- and other nonsensical, provocative argument points

It's the same circular arguments, baiting, and thread derailment in every release thread. Getting quite stale, but people keep falling for it and getting sucked into the pointless debates. Who are a few people to say what is and what isn't worth it to others, strangers they don't know, people whose preferences are different than their own?

It's hilarious, sad, and obnoxious all at the same time.

A certain poster is so adamant that people shouldn't buy from GOG, evidenced in making all the claims I listed above. If that person dislikes GOG's pricing, DRM-free, or extras policies, he is free to shop elsewhere. But despite that he continues to come here and complain endlessly about things that are simply not issues because:

- GOG is not trying to have the absolute cheapest prices (though they are obviously competitive)
- GOG is not the only option
- Nobody is forced to use GOG

So why all the fuss? What is the point of all of it? The only point, from what I can tell, is to stir up unrest and bait people into pointless arguments. My suggestion to others is to stop feeding this behavior.

For an animated character, Zoe is stunning on the front page. :-)

I do not know. I dislike Steam a great deal and do not buy games from them, yet I do not go onto the Steam boards and try to convince people not to buy from there. Seems a bit counter productive.
She really is, isn't she?

Great game. Starts slow but gets good. Everyone needs to give it a try.

Nice sidestepping.

From your previous comments on the "is DRM-free really worth it to pay extra?" discussions clearly show where you stand. After all, you couldn't even fathom the idea that some people wouldn't want to re-buy same games digitally several times, hence they prefer DRM-free games where they have the control themselves, and can make local backups.

Oh, and you changed the argument on the fly. First you claimed me saying that people (=all) should pay more:

"Hey, if you want to make the argument that people should be willing to pay extra for DRM-free, that's a fair argument to make. "

I couldn't give rat's ass what you want to pay. If you don't want to get the game from GOG, get it from Steam instead. Problem solved. So what was it that you were bitching about again? Is GOG twisting your arm or something?

And don't even act as some kind of "I'm worried about GOG's business" concerned customer, that doesn't fly. I'm still 150% certain GOG knows much better than you or Keevek, what is best for their business.


I concur. It would be the same as GOG users invading Steampowered boards the same way, commenting on Steam releases over and over and over again "yeah, but it isn't DRM-free like in GOG. Shame on you, Steam!".

It's a good game, with some really memorable sequences.

However, before you buy be aware that it ends with a massive cliffhanger and there's no indication that Funcom will ever finish the story. So prepare to be really annoyed when the credits pop up.

Asking whether you feel DRM-free is worth paying extra is polling an opinion, not questioning whether it is. There's a lot of people who do feel like they'd pay extra for DRM-free. However in discussions on the issue it does come up that a lot of people feel they *should not* have to pay extra for a DRM-free option, since in fact it costs them more effort to add DRM.

And your insinuation that I couldn't even 'fathom' that just shows that you're completely ignorant about what I think.

Um, talking about stuff like that simply 'interests' me. If you feel that the only way you can talk about something is out of 'concern' then that's a lack of insight on your behalf. I've discussed the state, the future and the how it got to be of Warhammer Online for years, and the only time concern came into it was when it was still being created. It was still interesting to follow and discuss after it came out however.

What does *any* of that have to do with the comment I made? It doesn't even make sense. Steam's already cheaper on sales. My hypothesizing that GOG's sales strategy should change to put sales prices more in line with Steam/Amazon etc goes exactly counter to the notion of me getting it on Steam. So how is that even relevant?

Look, this whole argument is getting somewhat old. After all, GOG.com is a retailer, and it has the right to price its product as it sees fit. You have the right to disagree and not to buy the game, if you believe it is overpriced. However, I don't see the point of any side defending or arguing against GOG.com's pricing policies. It is quite obvious that some things are more valuable to some people and some less. For example, I value that GOG.com offers me games without DRM, though I value their fair pricing practice (i.e. no differences among geographic regions) even more. However, some people believe that DRM-free games are not so important, and they have every right to do so. I just think there is a lot more passion in this thread than it's worth it. Still, I do recognise that everyone is entitled to an opinion, so let each side argue away (passionately), if this is what they want.

In conclusion, I must say that I am somewhat taken aback from recent developments in the game industry. I am getting concerned with the "always online" approach seen lately, which may actually become a common practice, given how big Diablo III sells. Thus, I treasury every option to get a game that I can install an indefinite number of times, on any computer I want, without restrictions, because it seems this is remaining slowly, but certainly in the past.

If I have to comment specifically this game, I think the price tag is far. Yes, it is not as good as "The Longest Journey", but it also has a good story and as memorable characters as the first one. I don't like very much some of the action-adventure elements (there was a particular maze level I dislike), but apart from that the game is quite good, and better than quite a lot of more recent games. The year of production is not such a big factor for me, unless the graphics are too outdated (and I don't think Dreamfall's look that old), as a good story (for an adventure game) and engaging gameplay are timeless.

Exactly. To demand DRM-Free from Steam, berate them for not releasing games that way, and then comment on their boards about a shoddy release would be ridiculous since that is not part of their business model. Likewise, demanding that GOG conform to Steam's sales/pricing methodology is counter intuitive since GOG is not Steam. They are a different size, they are from a different country, they have a different target customer base, they are set up in a different manner, and have a different statement of purpose.

You suggesting that I'm telling people to be "willing to pay" more for DRM-free games. No I am not saying that, no one has to do that if they don't want to. Instead they can get the DRM-version from e.g. Steam.

If people _prefer_ the DRM-free option, that alone proves they value the DRM-free version higher.

But when you claim that outright means they are willing to pay n% extra for a DRM-free version, it isn't quite as simple as that because many wouldn't buy the DRM-version at all, while many (like me) who might, our buying habits for DRM-games are wildly different from DRM-free games. Like not buying them into backlog (but only when I'm sure I'm going to play it in the near future), even if there is a great sale ongoing.

So in these cases the question "how much more would you pay for a DRM-free version?" can't be really answered. There was already a separate discussion about this.

You claim DRM doesn't concern you. So even if GOG always matched 1:1 the Steam prices, why would people like you get the GOG version anyway? Maybe GOG should constantly go under Steam prices in order to attract people like you, right?

timppu - your intentions are noble, but leave it alone.

He hijacks many threads with the same arguments, trying to convince people that they are not getting a good deal on GOG. He's so insecure that he needs everyone to shop the exact same way he does.

Nice ad hominem you have there, Mr Smiling Politely.

I believe that in the long run, pointing out the flaws in GOG's product offer, if done constructively and using at least partially objective arguments, will benefit everyone. Sweeping all concerns under the table with a "but GOG's DRM-free, you know" is not an attitude that would help your cause as a customer, nor GOG's cause as a seller.

And what is constructive in Pheace posts? Bla bla this games isn't cheap enough...bla bla this game is old why it is 20$... Bla bla why not make 75% sales...

If somebody wants GOG to become more like Steam that is not constructive. Enough digital sellers out there ;)

And yes DRM-free is a factor for a lot of people in this forum and a lot of them will love to buy some of their favorite games DRM-free even for 2-3$ more (so far besides AC1 [strangely cheaper for EU] there is not much diff in prices on Steam & GOG)